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Well, we know that composer/conductor Esa Pekka Salonen thought highly of Benny's film works because he devoted that album to them.
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I'm curious what concert composers, both past and present, thought of Bernard Herrmann and his film scores. Pierre Boulez allegedly thought of Herrmann as a second-rate Webern. Aaron Copland, Virgil Thomson and Leonard Bernstein allegedly admired his music. Lou Harrison thought that Herrmann's score for The Day the Earth Stood Still was astounding. Those are the only ones I can find at the moment. It would be interesting to know what composers like Philip Glass, Steve Reich and John Adams for example think of him. I agree wholeheartedly with Mr.Harrison. Day the Earth Stood Still was one of my favorites and still is and I will always have Mr. Herrmann in my respect and affection.
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I have a vague memory of Philip Glass praising Herrmann in an interview
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I have a vague memory of Philip Glass praising Herrmann in an interview I recall Glass even naming Herrmann as an influence; Herrmann's use of repeated patterns was apparently a catalyst in leading Glass to explore minimalism.
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I don't recall Boulez ever saying anything about Bernard Herrmann.... or even anything about film music.
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I don't recall Boulez ever saying anything about Bernard Herrmann.... or even anything about film music. Pierre Boulez have always been friend with Maurice Jarre since their beginning together in the Companie Renaud-Barrault, before Jarre joined the Théâtre National Populaire. He praised his friend skills as a film composer, even if he considered his film music, and film music in general, not really interesting musically. He thought Jarre had done his best things, as far as music is concerned, for the TNP. And Maurice Jarre has always said that the best years in his life were when he worked for the TNP, and that he would have given all his oscars to live that period again. Oh really? That's very interesting, I didn't know that. Yeah, I read a lot of Boulez' interviews and some of his exchanges with other composers like John Cage, but it never seemed that he was much interested in film music. Which makes it quite interesting indeed that he was friends with Maurice Jarre, a composer who obviously excelled at and was very famous for his film music.
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Apr 16, 2021 - 9:47 AM
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I don't recall Boulez ever saying anything about Bernard Herrmann.... or even anything about film music. Pierre Boulez have always been friend with Maurice Jarre since their beginning together in the Companie Renaud-Barrault, before Jarre joined the Théâtre National Populaire. He praised his friend skills as a film composer, even if he considered his film music, and film music in general, not really interesting musically. He thought Jarre had done his best things, as far as music is concerned, for the TNP. And Maurice Jarre has always said that the best years in his life were when he worked for the TNP, and that he would have given all his oscars to live that period again. Oh really? That's very interesting, I didn't know that. Yeah, I read a lot of Boulez' interviews and some of his exchanges with other composers like John Cage, but it never seemed that he was much interested in film music. Which makes it quite interesting indeed that he was friends with Maurice Jarre, a composer who obviously excelled at and was very famous for his film music. They were not close friends, though, but whenever they could meet and lunch together, they did. They had a strong and great relationship at their beginning, that both respected and even cherished. Pierre Boulez talked about this soon after Maurice Jarre passed away.
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They were not close friends, though, but whenever they could meet and lunch together, they did. They had a strong and great relationship at their beginning, that both respected and even cherished. Pierre Boulez talked about this soon after Maurice Jarre passed away. Wow, that made my day, I was unaware of the connection. Do you know where I could read up on it?
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For whatever it's worth, Stephen Sondheim was and is a big fan of Herrmann. And David Raksin.
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Apr 17, 2021 - 2:12 AM
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They were not close friends, though, but whenever they could meet and lunch together, they did. They had a strong and great relationship at their beginning, that both respected and even cherished. Pierre Boulez talked about this soon after Maurice Jarre passed away. Wow, that made my day, I was unaware of the connection. Do you know where I could read up on it? I actually had vague memories of what Pierre Boulez said, so I tried to search on the Internet: I remember a filmed interview but couldn't find it. However, there's a great interview in the 4CD box-set of "Le cinéma de Maurice Jarre" that I didn't remember while most of my memories about what Boulez told actually came from it (I've just re-read it). Boulez being Boulez, he said Jarre wasted his talent by doing film music in this interview. However, in the filmed interview I can't find, he was more nuanced. Here are some excerpts about their friendship: "The friendship we shared when we were young formed a bond between Maurice Jarre and I for sixty years, even if our paths did take different directions [...] Each of us made his own way through a territory that was quite the opposite. We saw each other again from time to time, either in the course of some documentary, or else by chance in some restaurant, and immediately the friendship we'd enjoy in our younger days was reactivated, as if time didn't exist. There was a deep bond between the two of us: together, we'd shared four years of nothing but happiness; we'd both been twenty years old, at the same time and in the same place." About John Cage, since you mentioned him, we learn in this interview that when he brought records of his music to Pierre Boulez, the latter didn't have anything to play them so they both went to Maurice Jarre's appartement to listen to them. An invaluable interview. And the box-set also contains two cues from Five Card Stud, a score you'd like to be released if I remember correctly.
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An invaluable interview. And the box-set also contains two cues from Five Card Stud, a score you'd like to be released if I remember correctly. Yes, very true; I'd love for 5 CARD STUD to be released. Thanks for the information on Boulez and Jarre, that is really very interesting to me. I had no idea.
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