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Lord knows we've seen some very very toxic comments here but Social Media has enabled a dialogue between creators and consumers like never before.
I won't dive in to the drama between Hans and James Southall here... all I can really speak for is myself when I say I've certainly been an asshole to strangers online, and that as I've attempted to grow up and be less of an opinionated arrogant immature jerk, I am still a film score loving comic book sci fi nerd. One that *tries* to treat others respectfully and simply walk away from toxicity that would only end up poisoning me if I engage it.
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One of the reasons I use my real name on my favorite forums is so folks know who I am when I say something ok. Equally I expect to be brought to book if I step overline or go too far.
Never too afraid to apologise if I get the wrong idea etc..
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Like Dirty Harry said
'Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one'
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One of the reasons I use my real name on my favorite forums is so folks know who I am when I say something ok. Equally I expect to be brought to book if I step overline or go too far.
Never too afraid to apologise if I get the wrong idea etc..
The FSM Board was actually the first place I used my real name online in 2002 because... well maybe I grew up or maybe I just didn't give a s**t what people think of me. I get privacy I guess? but at some point responsibility and accountability have to weigh in as well.
*later: Oh right, I forgot, Tom Servo had already taken my online handle here so I just gave in and let me be me.
I had a feeling we were on a similar wavelength.
For my part I was a little too old to get into the username thing, though I did it for a while because it was what people did on this 'internet thing'. Ultimately though my feeling was 'why?' Did I really want to say stuff so bad I'd be regarded as a-hole. Nah. Just not me.
It might just be that famous folks like Hans occasionally flip after other more stupid people than James have had a go, and his opinion came along and the composer just cracked. Then there's the famous 'artistic temperament'. Who knows? Sad day though either way.
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Actually, this issue has now resolved itself between Hans and James, so this thread is a little late to the party.
It appears that James's lowest ranking reviews of Tom Holkenborg's scores have been taken down. So much for freedom of speech. The bully wins.
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It appears that James's lowest ranking reviews of Tom Holkenborg's scores have been taken down. So much for freedom of speech. The bully wins.
You can have freedom of speech, but as a reviewer, if you enter in personal territory, well... isn't technically right.
But is to be right to some people mocking composers, because, i don't know, they think is fun mocking the job of another person. But hey, is freedom speech for some folks.
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It appears that James's lowest ranking reviews of Tom Holkenborg's scores have been taken down. So much for freedom of speech. The bully wins.
You can have freedom of speech, but as a reviewer, if you enter in personal territory, well... isn't technically right.
But is to be right to some people mocking composers, because, i don't know, they think is fun mocking the job of another person. But hey, is freedom speech for some folks.
The review of Tomb Raider was mean. I probably thought it was funny at the time. I don’t now. I apologised to its composer, but I guess he’s unlikely to see that. I feel bad about it. Just to be clear, nobody forced me to take it down, I chose to. I stand by my opinion but not the way I expressed it.
I thank everyone who sent me nice words which I really appreciate but honestly I wish no ill will to Hans Zimmer or anyone else (well, except some morons on Twitter) and don’t want anyone to hound him on my behalf. I’ve apologised to Tom Holkenborg, Hans Zimmer has apologised to me, so those aspects of it are (from my perspective anyway) now closed, however much I wish they hadn’t happened.
Thank you everyone.
James
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I am glad the parties involved were able to apologize to each other it seems.
This brings another question that has nothing do with James who has respectfully acknowledged his actions.
Why do so many film score fans on this board seem to hate on Hans Zimmer so much? I never understood it. Maybe I'm bias because I'm a fan of Zimmer's work, but the hate is just over the top and uncalled for in my opinion.
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The hate can get hysterical at times, Peter, but it mainly stems from the influence his style and factory of mass produced, homogenised music production has had on producers, directors and Hollywood in general.
I suppose many fans here have seen a lot of their favourite original/singular voiced composers stop working because the chugga chugga programmed score has become de rigeur in films.
We know it's not the composers fault and change was bound to happen alongside technical revolutions, but that, to me, is what is behind a lot of the animosity.
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