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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10      General Discussion: Hans Zimmer, bullying and fandom    FIRST   PRIOR   8 9 10       Last Post   Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 8:57 AM     By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member) May I suggest to all of us who do not hate Zimmer stop posting here? Otherwise, this thread will bloat with all those who enjoy mocking and feeling justified to bully.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 11:23 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) If he's not very good, why he created some of the most memorable themes in movie history? The short answer is (and I'm sorry to have to use a metaphor for the less-discerning listeners out there): because even though steak is available, some people will still take a hamburger. And "memorable" is clearly in the eyes of the beholder. Disclaimer: I freely acknowledge that I've had plenty of memorable hamburgers, but none came close to a memorable steak.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 11:51 AM     By:   Advise & Consent   (Member) May I suggest to all of us who do not hate Zimmer stop posting here? Otherwise, this thread will bloat with all those who enjoy mocking and feeling justified to bully. Having opposing views is bullying now?    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 12:30 PM     By:   Per   (Member) The short answer is (and I'm sorry to have to use a metaphor for the less-discerning listeners out there): because even though steak is available, some people will still take a hamburger I haven't read the thread, just looking at the lasts posts, and I have no need to make any posts, other than this, but in reference to the steak and burger, I take a hamburger 10 out of 10 times over a steak (as in actual hamburger vs steak; nothing to do with Zimmer or this thread at all)    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 12:49 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) The short answer is (and I'm sorry to have to use a metaphor for the less-discerning listeners out there): because even though steak is available, some people will still take a hamburger I haven't read the thread, just looking at the lasts posts, and I have no need to make any posts, other than this, but in reference to the steak and burger, I take a hamburger 10 out of 10 times over a steak (as in actual hamburger vs steak; nothing to do with Zimmer or this thread at all) And it is completely your right to prefer a burger. The issue in this thread is that people who like Zimmer are taking personal shots at those who don't, whereas--for the most part--the non-Zimmerites limit their criticism to Zimmer himself and not his fans.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 12:51 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) The issue in this thread is that people who like Zimmer are taking personal shots at those who don't, whereas--for the most part--the non-Zimmerites limit their criticism to Zimmer himself and not his fans. Fan bases are interesting, aren't they? I always thought that most annoying fan bases were those of the Dead, Zappa, and Jimmy Buffet. Does the addition of Zimmer transform this triumvirate into the four horsemen of the apocalypse?    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 1:02 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Fan bases are interesting, aren't they? I always thought that most annoying fan bases were those of the Dead, Zappa, and Jimmy Buffet. Does the addition of Zimmer transform this triumvirate into the four horsemen of the apocalypse? Four Horsemen is still far too limiting! LOL I don't think there is a large enough number of adequately count annoying fan bases! But to once again try to bring this back around to Tom's original intent, the very concept of bullying and fandom seems to surely go hand-in-hand--if this thread is any indication. It might be said that to be a fan of something is also to imply that the object in question would be something that the fan feels a need to defend--and that their level of fandom is defined by how vociferously they will come to that object's defense. And, ultimately, once the defense is given, any intellectual pushback is often labeled as bullying. The outward appearance of victimhood often seems to increase one's position of credibility or innocence.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 1:22 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Four Horsemen is still far too limiting! LOL I don't think there is a large enough number of adequately count annoying fan bases! Yeah, I forgot the Beatles. Their fanbase is getting intolerable.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 1:53 PM     By:   Totoro   (Member) Zimmer minions are very sensitive since the begining of time    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 2:24 PM     By:   DavidCoscina   (Member) Maybe the takeaway from this thread is this: One person's Big Mac might be another person's Filet Mignon. There is enough room for lots of different composers and styles. If you don't like something someone else loves, why waste energy invalidating their personal taste? My feeling is, celebrate what you love, and leave the stuff you don't behind. No sense in dwelling on it.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 2:32 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Maybe the takeaway from this thread is this: One person's Big Mac might be another person's Filet Mignon. There is enough room for lots of different composers and styles. If you don't like something someone else loves, why waste energy invalidating their personal taste? My feeling is, celebrate what you love, and leave the stuff you don't behind. No sense in dwelling on it. I like it. Sounds like an excellent place to start, except that it's the Zimmer fans throwing most of the punches. So why should they waste their time insulting the non-fans? Personally, I could not care less that someone enjoys Zimmer--I like some of his early stuff, myself. Just like I couldn't care less if someone hates something that I like. It's all about not needing exterior validation.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 3:21 PM     By:   Mephariel   (Member) The short answer is (and I'm sorry to have to use a metaphor for the less-discerning listeners out there): because even though steak is available, some people will still take a hamburger I haven't read the thread, just looking at the lasts posts, and I have no need to make any posts, other than this, but in reference to the steak and burger, I take a hamburger 10 out of 10 times over a steak (as in actual hamburger vs steak; nothing to do with Zimmer or this thread at all) And it is completely your right to prefer a burger. The issue in this thread is that people who like Zimmer are taking personal shots at those who don't, whereas--for the most part--the non-Zimmerites limit their criticism to Zimmer himself and not his fans. I think you need to reread the thread. And all other threads and reviews to be honest. Zimmer fans have been called Minions Sheeps Suckers Causals No where in this thread have I called anyone any names. And it is good that you admit to taking personal shots at Zimmer. At least you admit that much. I have composers I don't like either. You don't see me taking personal shots at them. I don't use words like "goon" and "hack" and "producer" just to bring other composers down. Zimmer, RCP, and Zimmer fans have been attacked by the film music community far more than the other way around. I don't even think anyone objective would would disagree.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 7:35 PM     By:   DavidCoscina   (Member) I think you need to reread the thread. And all other threads and reviews to be honest. Zimmer fans have been called Minions Sheeps Suckers Causals Unfortunately, I don't think any fan base is safe on this forum. Goldsmith fans have been derided, Horner fans, even Williams fans. This is the internet and a forum... not that it makes it right.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2021 - 8:05 PM     By:   bondo321   (Member) Maybe the takeaway from this thread is this: One person's Big Mac might be another person's Filet Mignon. There is enough room for lots of different composers and styles. If you don't like something someone else loves, why waste energy invalidating their personal taste? My feeling is, celebrate what you love, and leave the stuff you don't behind. No sense in dwelling on it. This. 10000% this.    Posted:   Mar 16, 2021 - 2:48 AM     By:   DavidCoscina   (Member) Maybe the takeaway from this thread is this: One person's Big Mac might be another person's Filet Mignon. There is enough room for lots of different composers and styles. If you don't like something someone else loves, why waste energy invalidating their personal taste? My feeling is, celebrate what you love, and leave the stuff you don't behind. No sense in dwelling on it. This. 10000% this. I will add that I’ve discovered some pretty great music that I might have otherwise never known thanks to this forum and recommendations by forum members. Thats why I continue to visit.    Posted:   Mar 20, 2021 - 11:33 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I think you need to reread the thread. And all other threads and reviews to be honest. Zimmer fans have been called Minions Sheeps Suckers Causals No where in this thread have I called anyone any names. And it is good that you admit to taking personal shots at Zimmer. At least you admit that much. I have composers I don't like either. You don't see me taking personal shots at them. I don't use words like "goon" and "hack" and "producer" just to bring other composers down. Zimmer, RCP, and Zimmer fans have been attacked by the film music community far more than the other way around. I don't even think anyone objective would would disagree. I come back from a few days off to this highly entertaining stuff. And for as interesting as it might be for me to go over each of your points one by one, I think it's funnier to leave it as it is--suffice to say that you've pretty much proven the points I've made previously about validation and defensiveness. The one bit that I will address individually is this: I'm not sure where you've gotten the idea that it matters that I've "taken personal shots at Zimmer" as though that's all I do, when I clearly stated that I enjoyed certain selections of his work. I get the sense that you are addressing different points by several people but clumping them all together in a post directed at me. That in itself is weird, but so be it. I think it is rather you that should reread my posts so that you don't inadvertently respond to me about the posts of others. As for what others call Zimmer, I don't really care. If others love him or hate him, it does not matter to me and it doesn't influence my opinion or affect me one bit. I suspect Zimmer doesn't care, either. The only real issue is if and when personal shots are taken at each other in this place. (And describing a large general group of people en masse does not qualify.)    Posted:   Mar 20, 2021 - 12:36 PM     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member) Oct, it was finally buried and you exhumed the carcass. Its dead so let it stay dead    Posted:   Mar 20, 2021 - 12:53 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Oct, it was finally buried and you exhumed the carcass. Its dead so let it stay dead I can't abide things mis-attributed to me--that's a personal failing of mine. But, yes, you are absolutely right, Bill. Over and out.     General Discussion: Hans Zimmer, bullying and fandom    << < 8 9 10  >   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

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