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 Posted:   May 13, 2021 - 3:22 AM   
 By:   David Mueller   (Member)

I love both those sketches albums! So glad they were released!

I like the WW84 sketches too but I would preferred more film cues over sketches in an bonus album. A 50/50 mix would be great. Like the second Interstellar CD on the 2020 expanded release. And the Dark Phoenix Xperiments... I love "X-X" and "X-SS". The other tracks are kinda meh for me and I hate the transitions between the tracks.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2021 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Some days on fsm, i look forward to the spambots big grin

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2021 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Prince of Egypt is an epic score. As thematic and robust as anything done by Williams, Goldsmith, Horner to name a few. WW84 is just insanely catchy and fun. Wish he did more like those.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2021 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

He changed the face of Film Music.
And his Legend will live on...Forever!


Kevin, is this a joke or what?

Hans Zimmer can be rather good sometimes, I can admit that (BLACK RAIN, RADIO FLYER, THE ROCK (thank you Nick Glennie-Smith for the latter)....) but overall, with the basement of sound design that he has helped to create through Media Ventures output over the last 3 decades, he is eventually I am afraid the worst thing that ever happened to film music art in Hollywood...since he established new standards!

The "problem" is that Zimmer has been so successful in Hollywood with tons of blockbuster or Academy award A-list movies to his credit that his style has now become a major and definitive trend. I suspect that the genius behind this success is not that much Zimmer but his very agents at Gorfaine & Schwartz....who obviously are very clever in selecting the right projects that will be successfull and or will enhance his carreer....

He had been sometimes greatly influential in the good way too, to be honest, and I salute the Mark Mancina output (SPEED, SPEED 2, TWISTER)...very effective leitmotives with nice melodies.

However, I am very sad of how Hans Zimmer did "infect" James Newton Howard old style for instance.
They are good friend and I respect that, a strong relationship probably reinforced through their collaboration on THE DARK KNIGHT. But there was a period when JNH did some scores the good old way, à la Michael Kamen/Jerry Goldsmith, like THE PACKAGE, THE FUGITIVE or OUTBREAK, this old fashion style culminating with KING KONG in 2005, a masterpiece body of film scoring. But after that, he changed a lot his style and zimmerised his music.

It seems that John Powell did the opposite journey: he was very zimmerised in style in his old FACE OFF period, than did PAYCHECK and the BOURNE franchise and after that did expand his style to a more symphonic approach, like in SOLO or PAN.

But Hans Zimmer huge influence remains as big as embarassing for all of us who like the old fashion film music.
Wanna get an up-to-date antivirus to Zimmer invasion? Just listen to Bruce Broughton, John Debney, Joel McNeely and Andrew Cottee's THE ORVILLE Season 1 and 2....

The problem must be the current lack of musical education from the powers-that-be in Hollywood.
Plus the hectic production schedules and constant last minute editing changes that are less and lesser compatible with a symphonic scoring process.

With James Horner in Heaven and John Williams semi-retired, I have bad feelings for the future of film music.

I just hope now that Alan Silvestri will keep his classical symphonic touch and won't ever zimmerise his music...
He proofed with his Marvel output that this is still possible....


Yawn.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2021 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

BRAAAAAAMMMMM

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2021 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)

Prince of Egypt is an epic score. As thematic and robust as anything done by Williams, Goldsmith, Horner to name a few. WW84 is just insanely catchy and fun. Wish he did more like those.

I do agree that the WW84 main theme is quite good and catchy.
I was very surprised myself when I first listened to it...

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2021 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Prince of Egypt is an epic score. As thematic and robust as anything done by Williams, Goldsmith, Horner to name a few. WW84 is just insanely catchy and fun. Wish he did more like those.

Is that the one Zimmer stole the Nexus' Theme from "Star Trek: Generations"?

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2021 - 2:48 AM   
 By:   David Mueller   (Member)

I found my new passion: Custom Covers with the Main Theme as sheet music.

This time: Inception by Zimmer & Balfe (yes Balfe is the only additional composer). I also wanted to include the 7 orchestrators but I didn't know where to place them...

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

I love both those sketches albums! So glad they were released!

I like the WW84 sketches too but I would preferred more film cues over sketches in an bonus album. A 50/50 mix would be great. Like the second Interstellar CD on the 2020 expanded release. And the Dark Phoenix Xperiments... I love "X-X" and "X-SS". The other tracks are kinda meh for me and I hate the transitions between the tracks.


Oh absolutely! I always prefer film cues more than ever. Luckily though, WW84 was quite generous.
And (mostly) actual film cues. Love it when he releases score this way. No looong suites or tracks blending together.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   David Mueller   (Member)

No looong suites or tracks blending together.

Reminds me of the new Neely releases. But from the labels view understandeble when a composer comes and want 18 albums to released.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I found my new passion: Custom Covers with the Main Theme as sheet music.

This time: Inception by Zimmer & Balfe (yes Balfe is the only additional composer). I also wanted to include the 7 orchestrators but I didn't know where to place them...


I thought it was common knowledge that Mike Zarin was the original author of the braaaammms.

https://www.indiewire.com/2013/11/who-really-created-the-inception-braaam-composer-mike-zarin-sets-the-record-straight-91690/

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)




That's all kinds of awesome!

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Prince of Egypt is an epic score. As thematic and robust as anything done by Williams, Goldsmith, Horner to name a few. WW84 is just insanely catchy and fun. Wish he did more like those.

Is that the one Zimmer stole the Nexus' Theme from "Star Trek: Generations"?


If he did, he greatly improved on it.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   David Mueller   (Member)

I thought it was common knowledge that Mike Zarin was the original author of the braaaammms.

https://www.indiewire.com/2013/11/who-really-created-the-inception-braaam-composer-mike-zarin-sets-the-record-straight-91690/


I've read carefully the album booklet and the credits on Zimmers website. The only listed composers are Zimmer and Balfe.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Is that the one Zimmer stole the Nexus' Theme from "Star Trek: Generations"?

If he did, he greatly improved on it.


If he did? You don't know?

How can you say he "improved" it then?

confused confused confused

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

I thought it was common knowledge that Mike Zarin was the original author of the braaaammms.

https://www.indiewire.com/2013/11/who-really-created-the-inception-braaam-composer-mike-zarin-sets-the-record-straight-91690/


I've read carefully the album booklet and the credits on Zimmers website. The only listed composers are Zimmer and Balfe.


I believe that sound was invented by caveman Krungo the first time he farted out loud.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2021 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

No looong suites or tracks blending together.

Reminds me of the new Neely releases. But from the labels view understandeble when a composer comes and want 18 albums to released.


Agree! They are totally ruined. I cant even listen to them anymore. :/

It's not his fault though. Also, if LLL had continued releasing them we would have gotten normal soundtracks.
Of course, again, not their fault when people dont buy them...

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2021 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I thought it was common knowledge that Mike Zarin was the original author of the braaaammms.

https://www.indiewire.com/2013/11/who-really-created-the-inception-braaam-composer-mike-zarin-sets-the-record-straight-91690/


I've read carefully the album booklet and the credits on Zimmers website. The only listed composers are Zimmer and Balfe.


the article details how Zimmer neglected to cite Zarin as the author of the sound.



 
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