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 Posted:   May 5, 2021 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Kubrick fired Zimmer from the "Full Metal Jacket" movie eek
All story by Hans himself on the Alec Baldwin's amazing podcast:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/heres-the-thing-23562128/episode/hans-zimmer-scores-81956152/


Not to disparage Zimmer, whose music I really like. But, I find it very hard to believe Kubrick ever seriously considered hiring anyone outside of his circle for the music.

Given what we know about Kubrick and music scores, it's more likely Kubrick was humoring a producer or studio exec about hiring Zimmer (or any other actual film composer, for that matter).



I remember an interview with Ennio Morricone where he said that Kubrick wanted him to score A Clockwork Orange. Morricone said that Kubrick was in contact with Sergio Leone about the availability of Morricone however Leone told Kubrick that he still needed Morricone but according to Morricone himself he was actually available at that time.

 
 
 Posted:   May 5, 2021 - 10:54 PM   
 By:   Dylan   (Member)

Interestingly, the eventual score for this film feels very "modern" insofar as it comes across as a nondescript soundscape, the kind of thing lots of filmmakers seem to love now. The difference is that in 1987 this was the exception, not the rule.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Wow, had no idea. But Z never got fired since! Which is pretty amazing.

What about The Client (1994) ? Can anyone confirm ?

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 1:14 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Wow, had no idea. But Z never got fired since! Which is pretty amazing.

What about The Client (1994) ? Can anyone confirm ?


He wasn't rejected. It was a scheduling conflict for Zimmer.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Wow, had no idea. But Z never got fired since! Which is pretty amazing.

What about The Client (1994) ? Can anyone confirm ?


He wasn't rejected. It was a scheduling conflict for Zimmer.


What was the story behind White Fang? Wasn't his score technically "rejected" in the end?

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Wow, had no idea. But Z never got fired since! Which is pretty amazing.

What about The Client (1994) ? Can anyone confirm ?


He wasn't rejected. It was a scheduling conflict for Zimmer.


Did he do any demos or record any score?

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I don't know.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Hybrid Soldier   (Member)

Wow, had no idea. But Z never got fired since! Which is pretty amazing.

What about The Client (1994) ? Can anyone confirm ?


He wasn't rejected. It was a scheduling conflict for Zimmer.


What was the story behind White Fang? Wasn't his score technically "rejected" in the end?


Poledouris scored the film. Disney wasn't impressed and hired Hans to redo the score (who had 2 weeks around christmas to do it).

Disney wasn't impressed either, they opted to select cues from both scores in the film... Let's say 60% is Poledouris & 40% is Zimmer, who didn't get any credit (ironically, his additional music team, Fiachra Trench & Shirley Walker, got credited !).

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

He wasn't rejected. It was a scheduling conflict for Zimmer.

The scheduling conflict being... there wasn't enough time in the schedule for Hans to write music that the director didn't hate?

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

I really like this score. Very haunting. I play a handful of cues at Halloween.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

He wasn't rejected. It was a scheduling conflict for Zimmer.

The scheduling conflict being... there wasn't enough time in the schedule for Hans to write music that the director didn't hate?


Eeeerm...nnnnno.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

Listening to this now! Thank you for the share.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

The original score is very effective. Amazed that people on a film score fan-site claim they don't remember it. Is it just because it doesn't come from a name composer?

Absolutely. I've always considered this message board more a bastion for score collectors than anything else.


Same. I saw the film in the theater when I was 22 in ‘87 and had been a huge fan of Williams, Goldsmith et al for a decade or so. I had no idea who Abigail Mead was, but several scenes featured some really affecting music, especially the climactic confrontation with the sniper in the second half (the music recalling the intensity of the “act one” finale although I didn’t pick up on that first time). Back then, awesome new composers were popping up right and left. I don’t think I’d heard of Zimmer back then but he’d arrive on the scene soon enough. But the score definitely made an impression in the film. If anything, the soundtrack album wasn’t nearly as intense as hearing the music in the theater.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2021 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Kubrick considered Zimmer to score his movie said Zimmer.



 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

Finally listened to the interview and I was reminded of just how full of shit Zimmer really is. He talks a lot but he doesn't really say anything.

The Kubrick story is just ridiculious, a supposed 18 year old Zimmer being fired from Full Metal Jacket. I mean, Zimmer was born in '57, the film came out in '87. We all know Kubrick took his time to make a film but I highly doubt it took him 12 years.

I love his music but the man himself is just a bloated baffoon

 
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