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Seems as though Mark Y. wants Eyes Wide Shut to be made again this year - this time in Austria.
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Seems as though Mark Y. wants Eyes Wide Shut to be made again this year - this time in Austria.
That sounds great to me! 
Actually, EWS fits a lot of what I'm looking for. Because of its New York setting, it didn't spring to mind, but as with THE GHOST WRITER, despite its US setting, it was filmed in Europe, and, being based on a work by the Viennese Schnitzler, has that "old world" civilized, wealthy atmosphere with dread beneath it. Thank you for reminding me of this one.
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The thought that you manually ignore me for your satisfaction rather turns me on ...
Why, look now: I will completely ignore that remark, and I do it all by myself, without fancy-schmancy technology "blocking" buttons. I will so completely ignore it, it is not even possible for anyone to fathom how more effort could ever be put into completely ignoring a remark. Take that.
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I will ignore that too.
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TOPAZ and THE DAY OF THE JACKAL both take us inside the elite palaces of the French government.
I love these movies, especially Jackal. But both are well before the late 1990s and both are too fast-paced....
This may be the first time in history The Day of the Jackal has been described as fast paced! 
(I love the original Jackal, by the way. Also, wish I had suggestions to add but don't.)
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Eye Of The Needle
Frantic
Elle
Taken
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Eye Of The Needle
Frantic
Elle
Taken
Taken is too much of an action movie. Elle is closer to the mark, though. The other two are out of the recent time frame I'm looking for, although Frantic has a lot of good qualities.
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Perhaps 'thriller' is not an ideal moniker here.
The core of that which Mark is seeking is the 'upper crust' - the high society/the upper class/'old money' aristocrats or wealthy bourgeoisie, etc. - in a metroplotian European city who engage in Continental etiquette and substitute 21st-century customs with those from prior centuries.
Vices are to be obscured away behind closed doors with the closeted family skeletons so as not to besmirch the pristine veneer or issue forth public scandal.
Has anyone seen the French films by the Chilean Raoul Ruiz? Genealogies of a Crime (1997), as example.
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Perhaps 'thriller' is not an ideal moniker here.
The core of that which Mark is seeking is the 'upper crust' - the high society/the upper class/'old money' aristocrats or wealthy bourgeoisie, etc. - in a metroplotian European city who engage in Continental etiquette and substitute 21st-century customs with those from prior centuries.
Vices are to be obscured away behind closed doors with the closeted family skeletons so as not to besmirch the pristine veneer or issue forth public scandal.
Has anyone seen the French films by the Cilean Raoul Ruiz? Genealogies of a Crime (1997), as example.
Something like that - but not necessarily a plot that has an axe to grind against the aristos. The mischief going on behind the stately, civilized veneer might be an elaborate con job (THE BEST OFFER), cultish stuff (THE NINTH GATE, EYES WIDE SHUT), a conspiracy (THE GHOST WRITER) or something else in which the suspense builds slowly. "Thriller" is indeed probably not the right word, as the thrills tend to be subtle in these types of films, a slow grip to the stomach.
And probably another quality is going to be a high-gloss big budget feel - so Chabrol-like art (as great as it is) isn't quite it.
(Boy, I'm really narrowing down what I'm looking for, aren't I? Maybe I've already listed all of the movies that exist like this!)
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Maybe I've already listed all of the movies that exist like this!
There might be a few more specimens with which we are unfamiliar, but the subject matter itself doesn't appear to be a 'sexy' enough topic for pursuit by current crops of film-makers.
Cultural traditions from Western Europe are likely hard sell in today's climate.
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Cultural traditions from Western Europe are likely hard sell in today's climate.
True that - I don't think any of the films I mentioned in my initial post were box-office champs. Of course, they don't so much focus on cultural traditions; rather that's just the backdrop.
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I've never heard about The Good Thief before; it looks worth watching. But it's also described as a "crime comedy" which alone means it probably doesn't qualify for the stately, slow-burning type of suspense I'm looking for. But thank you for bringing it to my attention. Just for the Goldenthal score I ought to see it!
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I've never heard about The Good Thief before; it looks worth watching. But it's also described as a "crime comedy" which alone means it probably doesn't qualify for the stately, slow-burning type of suspense I'm looking for. But thank you for bringing it to my attention. Just for the Goldenthal score I ought to see it!
I haven't seen The Good Thief for many years, but I wouldn't place it anywhere near the comedy category. It is based on a classic French crime film "Bob Le Flambeur" (1956) by Jean-Pierre Melville. Just looking at the IMDB page on this film, in the genres list: Action, Crime, Drama, Romance, Thriller. So I wonder what you read about it being part comedy. But read several different reviews on this film, watch the trailer on YouTube, before purchasing the DVD.
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Here's another one - Based On a True Story (D'après une histoire vraie ) (2017). A slow-burning psychological suspense tale set in France with affluent characters. Come to think of it, Roman Polanski is good at these Euro-suspense movies as I've already cited The Ninth Gate and The Ghost Writer.
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How about 2005's CACHE directed by Haneke? Noe's 2002 IRREVERSIBLE?
But of course these are a bit "anti-suspense"... CACHE borders on being a "slow burn" but definitely not IRREVERSIBLE! Neither one offers any catharsis.
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How about 2005's CACHE directed by Haneke? Noe's 2002 IRREVERSIBLE?
But of course these are a bit "anti-suspense"... CACHE borders on being a "slow burn" but definitely not IRREVERSIBLE! Neither one offers any catharsis.
No, Irreversible is too gritty and violent for what I'm looking for. But some of Haneke's films fit a bit better; there's more of an personalized art film aspect to his work rather than the big-budget opulence of things like The Best Offer or The Ninth Gate. But I think aspects of Haneke's work qualifies. Thank you.
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