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FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10
DEXTER: NEW BLOOD---trailer released for the Showtime revival series.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9H1uSS_zkk
CSI: VEGAS---trailer released for the revival series.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwh-t0EQH6U
FEAR THE WALKING DEAD---trailer released for Season 7.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FZi0ghqkGo
GHOSTS---trailer released for the new CBS comedy series.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF73THql8YY
OPPENHEIMER---Christopher Nolan is working on an untitled biomovie about J. Robert Oppenheimer, who led the effort to develop the atomic bomb during World War II.
STAR TREK---on the 55th anniversary of STAR TREK, William Shatner commented on his controversial 1986 appearance on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE in which he was at a STAR TREK convention and told the Trekkies in the audience. "Get a life". Trekkies and STAR TREK creator Gene Roddenberry felt it was demeaning. Shatner said, "I understood [the controversy], but I also understood that it was so amusing that most people would laugh, which they did. Some people didn't, and I'm sorry. But it was meant in fun. And I advise you to laugh."
DEN OF THIEVES 2---Gerard Butler said the sequel is underway, “We’re supposed to shoot early next year. We’re Europe-bound, we’re still on the hunt for Donnie who’s now on the diamond district in Marseilles. I go over to hunt him down, but with different intentions than you might imagine. So we’re gonna be in Marseilles, the Alps and London – it’s definitely a more glamorous journey than the last one, and probably a more fun, sexy journey.”
HALLOWEEN KILLS---the sequel will premiere on October 15 in theaters and on Peacock.
NIMH---Fox animated tv series underway based on the children's book trilogy. The 1982 animated movie THE SECRET OF NIMH was also based on the books.
TEDDY RUXPIN---movie and animated tv series franchise underway based on the toy bear.
TRIVIA---Ian Holm co-starred in two sci fi movies which had a lead character named Dallas. In ALIEN, Holm played science officer Ash and Tom Skerritt played Dallas, captain of the space tug Nostromo. In THE FIFTH ELEMENT, Holm played Vito Cornelius and Bruce Willis played taxi driver Korben Dallas.
In ALIEN, Holm (left) played science officer Ash and Tom Skerritt (right) played Dallas, captain of the space tug Nostromo.
In THE FIFTH ELEMENT, Holm played Vito Cornelius and Bruce Willis played taxi driver Korben Dallas.
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Sep 10, 2021 - 12:30 PM
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I have to admit I was pretty ticked off by that comment though I thought he said it in an interview or convention or something. Without Star Trek and Star Trek fans Shatner and Nimoy would be nothing, probably unemployed living day to day as senior citizens. Instead they had/have lucrative careers THANKS to the FANS. If it was said in a comedy skit then I'll give him more slack.
I get ya! I'm sure those guys are/were very aware of their indebtedness to the Trekkies and would never have deliberately insulted them. Yet, other than TV guestspots, etc., they were also permanently bound to Star Trek. What if there'd never been STTMP?
All of the Trekkies that I knew that were upset also had not seen the skit, and mistakenly thought likewise about the context.
Totally OT, but similarly, I remember when I was in college and Olivia Newton John was a top draw in the early 70s, several guys I knew claimed that Helen Reddy had been on The Tonight Show over a weekend and she told Johnny that she and ONJ were lovers - others had heard it second and third hand. I had watched Johnny and I never saw that. I disputed these guys and I nearly got into a fistfight with some - they swore it happened. Even several years later, guys at work would say the same thing. It's just so easy for stuff like that to get started and difficult to correct it.
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STAR TREK---on the 55th anniversary of STAR TREK, William Shatner commented on his controversial 1986 appearance on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE in which he was at a STAR TREK convention and told the Trekkies in the audience. "Get a life". Trekkies and STAR TREK creator Gene Roddenberry felt it was demeaning. Shatner said, "I understood [the controversy], but I also understood that it was so amusing that most people would laugh, which they did. Some people didn't, and I'm sorry. But it was meant in fun. And I advise you to laugh."
Interesting. I never realized that this sketch was controversial. I attended a few local Star Trek conventions in the late '80s and early '90s and this sketch always got played at some point, and the audience always seemed to laugh when it played. Similarly, my friends who are Star Trek fans always seemed to get a kick out of it as well.
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Without Star Trek and Star Trek fans Shatner and Nimoy would be nothing, probably unemployed living day to day as senior citizens. Instead they had/have lucrative careers THANKS to the FANS.
I doubt that in the extreme (Nimoy would def disagree with you). Shatner had a career well outside of Star Trek before and eventually after, but those first ten years following the show, Shatner and the others couldn't escape the typecasting. The supporting cast couldn't get themselves arrested.
THANKS to the FANS, as you say.
Kelley pretty much retired after doing one non-Trek related movie. He knew his time as a character actor was up and he just rode the wave. Koenig turned to writing and minor roles until Babylon 5 gave him a new lease on career life. Nichelle did one or two things but mostly did appearances and music. Takei owes his current fame to SHATNER and Takei's constant badgering of the man.
Shatner in particular probably suffered the most because he was doing just fine before Star Trek. He had a great reputation as a solid up and coming actor who never had trouble landing roles on TV and features, but he needed a weekly gig to support his family more securely. Star Trek was a great leading man role for him. If it had just been cancelled and disappeared like every other show, he probably would have landed another lead shortly thereafter, probably on a Quinn Martin detective series, or went into major motion pictures. Instead, Trek exploded in syndication, became this cult hit and these fans that people seem to feel they should be so grateful for, made it impossible for him or the others to be seen in any other roles.
Luckily, T.J. Hooker, for whatever its other qualities, made it possible for Shatner to be seen as someone other than Jim Kirk and he was able to move on to a second career as a lead and then as a character actor. Hooker and Denny Crane owe little to James Kirk or the fans. I'd agree that Trek fans might have helped to make TJ Hooker an early success, but that role broke him away from Kirk and made it possible for him to move onto other things. After that, he returned to the role because he wanted to, not because he needed the work. Jimmy Doohan couldn't say the same.
Now Shatner's coasting in his twilight years talking about Trek and making appearances, but he's well past the need for it. The guy's 90 with more money than any of us here will ever see.
Star Trek was really more of a curse and a career killer to most of the cast.
This was longer than I intended. LOL
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Sep 10, 2021 - 2:46 PM
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Without Star Trek and Star Trek fans Shatner and Nimoy would be nothing, probably unemployed living day to day as senior citizens. Instead they had/have lucrative careers THANKS to the FANS.
I doubt that in the extreme (Nimoy would def disagree with you). Shatner had a career well outside of Star Trek before and eventually after, but those first ten years following the show, Shatner and the others couldn't escape the typecasting. The supporting cast couldn't get themselves arrested.
THANKS to the FANS, as you say.
Kelley pretty much retired after doing one non-Trek related movie. He knew his time as a character actor was up and he just rode the wave. Koenig turned to writing and minor roles until Babylon 5 gave him a new lease on career life. Nichelle did one or two things but mostly did appearances and music. Takei owes his current fame to SHATNER and Takei's constant badgering of the man.
Shatner in particular probably suffered the most because he was doing just fine before Star Trek. He had a great reputation as a solid up and coming actor who never had trouble landing roles on TV and features, but he needed a weekly gig to support his family more securely. Star Trek was a great leading man role for him. If it had just been cancelled and disappeared like every other show, he probably would have landed another lead shortly thereafter, probably on a Quinn Martin detective series, or went into major motion pictures. Instead, Trek exploded in syndication, became this cult hit and these fans that people seem to feel they should be so grateful for, made it impossible for him or the others to be seen in any other roles.
Luckily, T.J. Hooker, for whatever its other qualities, made it possible for Shatner to be seen as someone other than Jim Kirk and he was able to move on to a second career as a lead and then as a character actor. Hooker and Denny Crane owe little to James Kirk or the fans. I'd agree that Trek fans might have helped to make TJ Hooker an early success, but that role broke him away from Kirk and made it possible for him to move onto other things. After that, he returned to the role because he wanted to, not because he needed the work. Jimmy Doohan couldn't say the same.
Now Shatner's coasting in his twilight years talking about Trek and making appearances, but he's well past the need for it. The guy's 90 with more money than any of us here will ever see.
Star Trek was really more of a curse and a career killer to most of the cast.
This was longer than I intended. LOL
I disagree. The Trek movies revitalized Shat's and Nimoy's careers. That was brought on by fan support for the original series. Shat wouldn't have gotten TJ Hooker (then Boston Legal) without the Trek films, Nimoy wouldn't gone on to become a director in Hollywood without the Trek films. The other actors were mostly typed cast before and after Trek.
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Sep 10, 2021 - 3:31 PM
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NIMH---Fox animated tv series underway based on the children's book trilogy. The 1982 animated movie THE SECRET OF NIMH was also based on the books.
Many years ago there were reports of a NIMH remake. At the time I said to myself, "Yeah right!" and sure enough it never got produced. I think it was supposed to be a 3D movie, (with more humor!) Anyway it's never clear if these NIMH remakes are based solely on the novels or on Don Bluth's film. Bluth's film is really different from the novel which in my opinion was a very boring read. He took the core of the story and then added so much more. The "medieval" style rat society, all the magic incorporated into the film, the murder of Nicodemus, the magic amulet, the sword fight at the climax, the house raising, all of it is Bluth's creation. Jenner and Jeremy had very minor roles. Mrs Brisby (Frisbee in the book) was saved by a fish! If they think they're gonna remake Bluth's NIMH forget it! It's just to iconic and his masterpiece.
Bluth and his partner Goldman are very talented, and Nimh is an exceptionally ornamented and detailed piece of animation.
His films like American Tale and Titan AE and Land Before Time, and even Anastasia, are really beautiful films. His career spans a remarkable piece of animation history. And that score to Nimh remains a jaw dropping gorgeous thing Jerry gave us.
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Sep 10, 2021 - 7:23 PM
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Ado
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OPPENHEIMER---Christopher Nolan is working on an untitled biomovie about J. Robert Oppenheimer, who led the effort to develop the atomic bomb during World War II.
This is such an odd combination considering how Christopher Nolan used a disproven urban legend as a means of justifying certain plot points in Tenet.
Priya: You're familiar with the Manhattan Project? As they approached the first atomic test, Oppenheimer became concerned that the detonation might produce a chain reaction, engulfing the world.
Pro: They went ahead anyway and got lucky.
Priya: Think of our scientists as her generation's Oppenheimer.
That was not how it happened. Edward Teller, a scientist who worked on the Manhattan Project warned Oppenheimer that there might be a possibility that an atomic detonation could ignite the world's atmosphere. Oppenheimer and others agreed that this needed more studying and would only continue with the Manhattan Project if the chances of such an event occurring was less than three in one million. Physicist Arthur H. Compton even said "Better to accept the slavery of the Nazis than to run a chance of drawing the final curtain on mankind." Turns out the odds of such a catastrophe happening was much lower than that because Teller's initial report forgot to factor in one crucial element. Heat loss. So after redoing all their calculations, Teller and Oppenheimer concluded that such an event was impossible and proceeded with the Manhattan Project KNOWING the world would not come to an end when the Trinity Test occurred.
But if you're Christopher Nolan, Oppenheimer told Teller "Let's hope we get lucky."
Tenet ranks down there with the epic worst movies ever made, pound for point, dollar for dollar, minute for minute, it is a smoking worthless trash heap of pretentiousness, it is astonishing how bad it is.
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Sep 11, 2021 - 7:31 AM
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NIMH---Fox animated tv series underway based on the children's book trilogy. The 1982 animated movie THE SECRET OF NIMH was also based on the books.
Many years ago there were reports of a NIMH remake. At the time I said to myself, "Yeah right!" and sure enough it never got produced. I think it was supposed to be a 3D movie, (with more humor!) Anyway it's never clear if these NIMH remakes are based solely on the novels or on Don Bluth's film. Bluth's film is really different from the novel which in my opinion was a very boring read. He took the core of the story and then added so much more. The "medieval" style rat society, all the magic incorporated into the film, the murder of Nicodemus, the magic amulet, the sword fight at the climax, the house raising, all of it is Bluth's creation. Jenner and Jeremy had very minor roles. Mrs Brisby (Frisbee in the book) was saved by a fish! If they think they're gonna remake Bluth's NIMH forget it! It's just to iconic and his masterpiece.
Bluth and his partner Goldman are very talented, and Nimh is an exceptionally ornamented and detailed piece of animation.
His films like American Tale and Titan AE and Land Before Time, and even Anastasia, are really beautiful films. His career spans a remarkable piece of animation history. And that score to Nimh remains a jaw dropping gorgeous thing Jerry gave us.
Thanks Ado, totally agree and nicely said.
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I disagree. The Trek movies revitalized Shat's and Nimoy's careers. That was brought on by fan support for the original series. Shat wouldn't have gotten TJ Hooker (then Boston Legal) without the Trek films, Nimoy wouldn't gone on to become a director in Hollywood without the Trek films. The other actors were mostly typed cast before and after Trek.
I do agree that Nimoy leveraged Trek for his directorial career, which didn't really get anywhere. TJ Hooker started filming and premiered prior to the release of Star Trek II, so then that would mean the unpopular to the masses first picture gave him a new shot? I'm not sure that would have compelled Aaron Spelling to go with Shatner for the role - which wasn't even the min character in the pilot. They reformatted the series to focus on Hooker and Romano for the series.
Shatner had one ability that most of the others didn't: a knack for reinvention. I will allow that Star Trek fans were a built in audience for any series starring Bill Shatner, but they were not enough to float a series and a career (as the 70's proved). The show and Shatner's portrayal - which wasn't at all "Jim Kirk in a police car" as critics have said - clicked with main stream audiences (Heather Locklear joining the cast sure didn't hurt either). But yes, the Trekkie connection was there, just see the classic pairing of Nimoy and Shatner in one episode. But you had to me more than a Star Trek fan to watch a series like that for 4 and a half seasons.
As for Boston Legal, I think Shatner was far enough from Jim Kirk to get that role based on his own persona. He wasn't coasting on Star Trek, he was riding the wave of being William Shatner (which is really just another role). The music, the books, the ads and so on. Nah, he doesn't owe fans his career. He turned around and ESCAPED the stigma placed on the cast BY the fans with their obesssive adoration.
Shatner had nothing to lose by doing that skit. Jimmy Doohan and Takei? Absolutely. They owed their extra paychecks to the conventions and appearances. Shatner backed away from fandom for decades probably because he needed to cave out his niche away from Star Trek. And he did.
To his death, Nimoy was Spock. Shatner is "William Shatner." He did that himself. He owes me nothing.
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I disagree. The Trek movies revitalized Shat's and Nimoy's careers. That was brought on by fan support for the original series. Shat wouldn't have gotten TJ Hooker (then Boston Legal) without the Trek films, Nimoy wouldn't gone on to become a director in Hollywood without the Trek films. The other actors were mostly typed cast before and after Trek.
I do agree that Nimoy leveraged Trek for his directorial career, which didn't really get anywhere. TJ Hooker started filming and premiered prior to the release of Star Trek II, so then that would mean the unpopular to the masses first picture gave him a new shot? I'm not sure that would have compelled Aaron Spelling to go with Shatner for the role - which wasn't even the min character in the pilot. They reformatted the series to focus on Hooker and Romano for the series.
Shatner had one ability that most of the others didn't: a knack for reinvention. I will allow that Star Trek fans were a built in audience for any series starring Bill Shatner, but they were not enough to float a series and a career (as the 70's proved). The show and Shatner's portrayal - which wasn't at all "Jim Kirk in a police car" as critics have said - clicked with main stream audiences (Heather Locklear joining the cast sure didn't hurt either). But yes, the Trekkie connection was there, just see the classic pairing of Nimoy and Shatner in one episode. But you had to me more than a Star Trek fan to watch a series like that for 4 and a half seasons.
As for Boston Legal, I think Shatner was far enough from Jim Kirk to get that role based on his own persona. He wasn't coasting on Star Trek, he was riding the wave of being William Shatner (which is really just another role). The music, the books, the ads and so on. Nah, he doesn't owe fans his career. He turned around and ESCAPED the stigma placed on the cast BY the fans with their obesssive adoration.
Shatner had nothing to lose by doing that skit. Jimmy Doohan and Takei? Absolutely. They owed their extra paychecks to the conventions and appearances. Shatner backed away from fandom for decades probably because he needed to cave out his niche away from Star Trek. And he did.
To his death, Nimoy was Spock. Shatner is "William Shatner." He did that himself. He owes me nothing.
He did what he had to do, what he always does. Turn death into a fighting chance to live. Long live Bill!
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Sep 11, 2021 - 8:34 PM
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I disagree. The Trek movies revitalized Shat's and Nimoy's careers. That was brought on by fan support for the original series. Shat wouldn't have gotten TJ Hooker (then Boston Legal) without the Trek films, Nimoy wouldn't gone on to become a director in Hollywood without the Trek films. The other actors were mostly typed cast before and after Trek.
I do agree that Nimoy leveraged Trek for his directorial career, which didn't really get anywhere. TJ Hooker started filming and premiered prior to the release of Star Trek II, so then that would mean the unpopular to the masses first picture gave him a new shot? I'm not sure that would have compelled Aaron Spelling to go with Shatner for the role - which wasn't even the min character in the pilot. They reformatted the series to focus on Hooker and Romano for the series.
Shatner had one ability that most of the others didn't: a knack for reinvention. I will allow that Star Trek fans were a built in audience for any series starring Bill Shatner, but they were not enough to float a series and a career (as the 70's proved). The show and Shatner's portrayal - which wasn't at all "Jim Kirk in a police car" as critics have said - clicked with main stream audiences (Heather Locklear joining the cast sure didn't hurt either). But yes, the Trekkie connection was there, just see the classic pairing of Nimoy and Shatner in one episode. But you had to me more than a Star Trek fan to watch a series like that for 4 and a half seasons.
As for Boston Legal, I think Shatner was far enough from Jim Kirk to get that role based on his own persona. He wasn't coasting on Star Trek, he was riding the wave of being William Shatner (which is really just another role). The music, the books, the ads and so on. Nah, he doesn't owe fans his career. He turned around and ESCAPED the stigma placed on the cast BY the fans with their obesssive adoration.
Shatner had nothing to lose by doing that skit. Jimmy Doohan and Takei? Absolutely. They owed their extra paychecks to the conventions and appearances. Shatner backed away from fandom for decades probably because he needed to cave out his niche away from Star Trek. And he did.
To his death, Nimoy was Spock. Shatner is "William Shatner." He did that himself. He owes me nothing.
I never said he owed me anything. But he owes his career to Star Trek. From 1969 to 1982 he had no TV series of his own nor was he a movie star. Just a few TV movies, a Roger Corman film and guest spots on other television series. From 1979 to 1994 he was consistently in the public eye doing Star Trek. Sorry I don't see him having much of a career after 50 if it wasn't for Star Trek and the fandom behind it.
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