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 Posted:   Sep 11, 2021 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   roadshowfan   (Member)

I have the Fantastic Voyage boxed set called "John Barry Revisited", which features the Zulu album in stereo.

I've just been listening to the non-soundtrack track "Stamp and Shake" (aka Tetha Leyanto) and there seems to be a bass guitar (?) playing under the introductory vocal (heard best with headphones) that isn't on the mono version (2nd clip below). Is the bass supposed to be there or has it accidentally "bled" in from another track? And if it is a mastering error was it ever corrected?



 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2021 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   roadshowfan   (Member)

I'm hoping someone else can hear this possible glitch, or is it just me?

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2021 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


I could hear what you mention...I think.

I don't know the history of this album, but back in the day, they'd make different mixes for stereo and mono release. I would expect the differences to track back to those mixing decisions, and not some latter-day error.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2021 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

I noticed this too a while ago. To me it sounds like one of the session players just riffing on a double bass for the intro. The notes seem to be the same for the bass line later on for the chorus section. It could be bleed through, but your right, its not present on the mono mix. Could be an alternate performance.
I like it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2021 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

And yet no one (until now!) mentions the Mono version runs almost 10 seconds longer than the Stereo version smile

I've always thought that the Stereo was a fade-out, i.e. same recording, but admit I'd not noticed the extra sounds in the opening.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2021 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

The mono and stereo albums of FOUR IN THE MORNING also have different versions of some tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2021 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   roadshowfan   (Member)

Many thanks to all for the responses. Glad it's not just my ears!

I'm not very familiar with the history of the Zulu album, and although the Ember catalogue has been reissued ad nauseam over the years this box set is probably the first time I've heard the album in proper stereo. I always assumed (wrongly it seems) that the stereo LP was "electronic stereo" as it used to be called.

It's also interesting that the mono and stereo versions seem to have slightly different takes. Has the album appeared in true stereo on CD before this Revisited box set? And was the American UA LP in proper stereo also?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2021 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

Love this score and hope it's done justice one day with a new restoration with both the stereo and mono album mixes.

The stereo CD I have is RPM Records (RPM 195) from 1999. It’s true stereo. However, the left/right channels were inadvertently swapped, it needs rebalancing between them, and other stuff addressed. There's lots of ground to do better with this amazing score.

And a cleaned up stereo Four In The Morning would be super too.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2021 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   Cameron007   (Member)

"Crazy Days" from Mr. Mom differs between the mono and stereo versions as well. The trumpet section at the beginning is muted in the stereo (and the film itself). Also, it seems to be edited to match the film, though it is not labelled as such like the other edited cues are.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2021 - 3:29 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Love this score and hope it's done justice one day with a new restoration with both the stereo and mono album mixes.

The stereo CD I have is RPM Records (RPM 195) from 1999. It’s true stereo. However, the left/right channels were inadvertently swapped, it needs rebalancing between them, and other stuff addressed. There's lots of ground to do better with this amazing score.

And a cleaned up stereo Four In The Morning would be super too.

Chris


Chris, if you were to be the one to work on these, I would be a happy man.

Actually, is there any chance that a label like Quartet might put out Zulu and Four In The Morning with both the mono and stereo versions on them?

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2021 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   bigjimwilson   (Member)

Love this score and hope it's done justice one day with a new restoration with both the stereo and mono album mixes.

…..said Mr Malone as he chuckled and pressed save on his Zulu project. (Fingers crossed smile please!)

 
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