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 Posted:   Sep 16, 2021 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

I can't hear the difference between Bruno Nicolai and Morricone and if Nicolai is almost as good, why most people don't know who he is ? No articles in magazines, no books (not sure), almost no greatest hits albums on lps or cds, etc. Is it possible that he is the greatest underrated soundtrack composer ?

https://youtu.be/UYiwK0kxJnc

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2021 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I can't hear the difference between Bruno Nicolai and Morricone and if Nicolai is almost as good, why most people don't know who he is ? No articles in magazines, no books (not sure), almost no greatest hits albums on lps or cds, etc. Is it possible that he is the greatest underrated soundtrack composer

Bruno Nicolai did particularly well with Giallo, orchestral lounge and modern drama scores using Edda Dell'Orso wordless vocals, but Morricone arguably had more impact overall on many more genres: Avant-Garde music, symphonic scores, westerns, crime and police films, etc.

Of course if you include conducting work, Bruno Nicolai was there for all these memorable Morricone scores but it is difficult to know the extent of his contribution.

Bruno Nicolai had much less international visibility and scored no American films. So it is not surprising he is not discussed here. Take the example of Georges Delerue for instance: he had a long career in France but his American films are completely dominant here, which doesn't make much sense to me as I'm more familiar with French films. But compared to other Italian composers Nicolai's visibility is pretty decent here. For instance we talk even less about Daniele Patucchi or Berto Pisano, who I think were similarly strong to Bruno Nicolai in the early 70s.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2021 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

According to director,Sollima, Morricone actually wrote Run Man Run.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2021 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Funnily enough, NO NAME, you picked up CORRI UOMO CORRI, a score that's been ascribed to Ennio by his biographer Sergio Miceli. This said, we'll never know if he did write anything for it or not.

Nicolai was in my opinion a fantastic musician but the real genius was Morricone. And if you listen to a lot of scores of both artists, you'll certainly end up distinguishing them.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2021 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Bruno Nicolai's real strength was in conducting. Not only was he the conductor of choice for Morricone but Carlo Rustichelli and Fiorenzo Carpi. He also at some point conducted for Luis Bacalov, Nino Rota, Giovanni Fusco and Piero Piccioni. When you compare the width and breadth of his conducting career his composing career pales quite a bit.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2021 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

According to director,Sollima, Morricone actually wrote Run Man Run.

Not this old chestnut dug up again. Dont be mischievious damian. It doesn't matter what an 80 plus year old man says trying to promote his dvd release n give his film greater kudos. Anyone with even limited experience of Nicolai's scores should be able to hear its pure Nicolai.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2021 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

According to director,Sollima, Morricone actually wrote Run Man Run.

Not this old chestnut dug up again. Dont be mischievious damian. It doesn't matter what an 80 plus year old man says trying to promote his dvd release n give his film greater kudos. Anyone with even limited experience of Nicolai's scores should be able to hear its pure Nicolai.


I wasn't being mischievous, honest. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2021 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

Not too long ago i read that Nicolai retrieve when possible Morricone's music that he won't use. And i know that a giallo score Nicolai did has a theme from a Morricone score. Anyway, i still say that he is a underrated composer better than many and its impossible to hear a difference from some score. You can ?



According to director,Sollima, Morricone actually wrote Run Man Run.

Not this old chestnut dug up again. Dont be mischievious damian. It doesn't matter what an 80 plus year old man says trying to promote his dvd release n give his film greater kudos. Anyone with even limited experience of Nicolai's scores should be able to hear its pure Nicolai.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2021 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Dozens upon dozens of composers are more under-rated than Bruno Nicolai.

Here are some whom I think wrote better music than Nicolai:

Jean Prodromides
Pierre Jansen
Roberto Nicolosi
Tristram Cary
Meyer Kupferman
Luis de Pablo
Carlo Savina
Humphrey Searle
Stanley Myers
Dominic Frontiere
Sei Ikeno
Mario Migliardi
Robert O. Ragland
Elisabeth Lutyens
Hikaru Hayashi
Gino Marinuzzi jr.
Phillip Lambro
Tadeusz Baird
Wilfred Josephs
Waldo de los Rios
Loek Dikker
Paul Glass
Gerard Schurmann
Giovanni Fusco
Hans-Martin Majewski
Marc Wilkinson
Daniele Amfitheatrof
Giorgio Gaslini
Frank Cordell
Harry Robinson,
Yasushi Akutagawa
Roman Vlad
Don Banks
Georges Garvarentz
Matyas Seiber
Michel Magne
Takeo Yamashita
Van Cleave
Paul Misraki
William Kraft
Maurice Leroux
Francis Chagrin

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2021 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

Maybe there are others but i don t think all those are better. In your list there are 13 names i never even knew they exist and i am a soundtrack fan since 1973 ! Bruno Nicolai is on the level of Dominic Frontiere, Michel Magne and some others. I can see that you really don't like Nicolai !

Dozens upon dozens of composers are more under-rated than Bruno Nicolai.

Here are some whom I think wrote better music than Nicolai:

Jean Prodromides
Pierre Jansen
Roberto Nicolosi
Tristram Cary
Meyer Kupferman
Luis de Pablo
Carlo Savina
Humphrey Searle
Stanley Myers
Dominic Frontiere
Sei Ikeno
Mario Migliardi
Robert O. Ragland
Elisabeth Lutyens
Hikaru Hayashi
Gino Marinuzzi jr.
Phillip Lambro
Tadeusz Baird
Wilfred Josephs
Waldo de los Rios
Loek Dikker
Paul Glass
Gerard Schurmann
Giovanni Fusco
Hans-Martin Majewski
Marc Wilkinson
Daniele Amfitheatrof
Giorgio Gaslini
Frank Cordell
Harry Robinson,
Yasushi Akutagawa
Roman Vlad
Don Banks
Georges Garvarentz
Matyas Seiber
Michel Magne
Takeo Yamashita
Van Cleave
Paul Misraki
William Kraft
Maurice Leroux
Francis Chagrin

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2022 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   eda-88   (Member)

One of the latest TV series scored by BRUNO NICOLAI and NEVER RELEASED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN5_oip7cs0
Famous Italian Director DAMIANO DAMIANI frequently and mostly collaborated with RIZ ORTOLANI
But he also worked with Morricone (3 films for sure), Bacalov, Fusco, De Angelis and other great composers.

BRUNO NICOLAI, GIOMBINI, PATUCCHI, MASSARA, MICHELINI, GIZZI and many others are not well-known composers created a lot of great music but are not famous. Underrated.

NICOLAI-MORRICONE collaboration interrupted in 1975. Since then Morricone always conducted his scores (except few occasion like L'EREDITA FERRAMONTI by Franco Tamponi etc)

 
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