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 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   lovaar   (Member)

This almost seems too good to be true. If these master tapes were finally located after four decades, all I can say is %&#@@%!! And congratulations Silva Screen.

https://www1.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/43426/THE-TAMARIND-SEED/

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

That's amazing! Given how hard it is to license from the ITC catalog this is like a double miracle.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"tracks selected" for this release. So, after four decades and finally finding tapes, only selections???

I wonder if they found any other tapes for other scores while looking where ever they looked.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

"tracks selected" for this release. So, after four decades and finally finding tapes, only selections???

Perhaps the album is being produced by Thor.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Somebody tell musicmad!! Lol

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

FAN-SEEDING-TASTIC!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Wonderful surprise ! Ordered !

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

CD = sale!

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Somebody tell musicmad!! Lol

My reputation precedes me!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Already ordered it. Very good news. One of the few Blake Edwards films not scored by Mancini. Nice song, too.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

It's rather strange that Silva's website doesn't mention anything about Tamarind Seed. And SAE's website doesn't state if the score is in stereo or mono.

No stereo - No sale wink

Jay

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2021 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

I believe I got this version. It is just a OK Version…But the Best Version was on You Tube…That someone rip’s from the Isolated DVD. It was Better than this version.
This was probably ripped from that website that downloads soundtracks…where I gets all my soundtracks. A great site.

But The Tamarind Seed by John Barry is a Very Good Soundtrack.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Silva Screen have been sitting on The Tamarind Seed for years. I really do mean years. I first heard they were doing it at least ten years ago, long before the Network DVD/BR came out with the isolated score.

My understanding for why they didn't release it at the time is they were holding out for better elements. Did those better elements show up? Or did they decide better elements were never going to show up?

If the score is not going to be presented complete (and are we sure it isn't?), maybe it's because they couldn't secure elements of sufficient quality for some bits.

John Barry gave a cassette of some of the score to a fan back in the 70s. It's interesting in that this cassette only had the original, not used, version of the Main Title.

Then Network in the UK put out a complete set of recordings on the isolated score track of their DVD/BR, but it was sonically compromised in places.

My rip from the Network disc is 31 tracks running 62 minutes not including the alternate main title, so that must be the benchmark for how complete the Silva Screen recording is.

My rip of the cassette source is 12 tracks running 24 minutes and remember this includes the alternate main title.

I don't know what elements Silva Screen got.

Remember though that a lot of The Tamarind Seed is source music. It's also possible Silva Screen thought some of the source music isn't that interesting.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I've also just noticed that the track titles on the SEA listing are the track titles I made up when I ripped the Network DVD/BR iso score for my own use. I mean, I know some titles are obvious and are what anybody would have come up with, but titles like Napalm Boat are not what everybody would have picked.

Well, I do remember posting my track titles in several places over the years, so that's kinda nice to see.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Great!

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

As much as I would love to have a better sounding / more complete release of this score I'm cautious about jumping for joy ... my existing three versions of the score probably provide the fix I need when my mind turns to The Tamarind Seed (1974).

And then there is the film which is a delight ... I enjoy it thoroughly.

Pre-internet I bought what I thought was a proper CD release of the score from a well-known UK dealer and was disappointed at the fairly rough sounding product ... 15 trs. 28'47" ... but no dialogue (no song either)

I did a DVD-rip (from the earlier DVD release) which grabs most of the score ... and lots of dialogue ... 23 trs. 46'34 ... and this, for me, is a great listen as I'm so used to the dialogue extracts that they tell me the story in an abridged fashion.

And we have the isolated score on the more recent BluRay release ... not perfect sound (as Stephen mentions) but at least it's an alternative to the DVD rips.

Plus, I have Wilma Reading's 45rpm release of the song (conducted by Barrie Guard) and other recordings (JB: Play it Again; Nic Raine/CoPP: suite ... even an old LP trfr to DVDr of Denis King's recording of Play it Again which I recently played ... the opening solo trumpet performance is superb!)

So, I don't need another incomplete. far-from perfect sounding release.

Will I buy it? Probably smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 2:10 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I've never heard any of it (or seen the film). You have to read the blurb carefully, it says: - "no one ever truly expected it to see the light of day given that only sections of the master tapes have ever been traced." - & then it says: - "and yet, miraculously, almost half a century after the film was premiered, what was considered mere wishful thinking – a pipedream even – has finally come true." - it doesn't actually say that any new tapes have been found, or anything about the quality or mono/stereo of the tapes. I'm in no rush, I'll wait for comments.

So far this year I haven't bought any soundtrack releases, just three months to go & it could be the first years in many decades that no soundtrack release have been bought.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I watched the film not long ago on Talking Pictures TV. Pretty average fare in my opinion. I'm almost loathe to anticipate this release too much in case something goes wrong and it's cancelled yet again.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I will no doubt have a suite or theme - or both - of this on some of the many John Barry CD compilations I have acquired down the years (the Blue Box 4CD set and a Slim Case 6CD set from Silva being my favourite Go-To's).
And like most other Barry scores, it will probably be enough for me.
Unlike other composers, who, when watching films they had scored in the past (Williams, Goldsmith, Horner, JNH, Elfman, Broughton...) I would always hear music I loved and wanted that wasn't on the LP/CD, whereas Barry always gave me more than enough on whatever was released at the time.
There's probably only KING KONG which I can honestly say I love in its expanded edition.
And I can get through THE LION IN WINTER and THE LAST VALLEY in their original forms.
Most other scores by him would be whittled down by me, to get rid of some very slow suspense cues or boring tension cues.
That's probably why I always loved PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED so much, as the 25 minutes made available first time around were perfect.
Same with SOMEWHERE IN TIME.
His music is the most ideal, for me, in the Suites & Themes format.
Probably more so than any other film composer I can think of.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2021 - 2:55 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Yes..in a way the lush Barry is not my cup of tea as well...
But nevertheless great that this one is being released...and to be fair I only heard the suite on youtube, which didnt impress me ,but reading the track list there might be some highlights not in the suite.

 
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