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 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   batroc   (Member)

Just saw this batch*t crazy movie with Lee Marvin as a Chicago Mob Enforcer vs Gene Hackman as a Kansas Farm Mobster and LOVED the Schifrin score cues! Has any of this music ever been released on a compilation or in any form whatsoever?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Im afraid not...after Goldsmith... Schifrin is the one of whom aaaaaalllll scores needs a releasewink

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Prime Lalo—so good!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

Im afraid not...after Goldsmith... Schifrin is the one of whom aaaaaalllll scores needs a releasewink

I totally second this....!!

While Jerry Goldsmith has almost been released completely, Lalo Schrifin still has tons of holes to suffer in his discography.

I also hope for an Intrada release of SPECIAL DELIVERY someday...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahOYnoGewDM
Very close to his score to MOST WANTED...released by Lalaland

LOVE AND BULLETS is also a favorite among the unreleased stuff...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHyItSGYfH4&t=17s

But the first one that should be released remains KILL CHARLEY VARRICK !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLD_WN6pjX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v1nc5w_Ew8

What is very odd is that ESCAPE TO ATHENA has never been released on CD although there was a vintage Japanese LP release (aka OFFSIDE 7)
https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/1243219-Lalo-Schifrin-Offside-7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U24L9sM0NTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgec8ZELq0U

Let's not forget ESCAPE, the 19714 TV movie starring Christopher George...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miFzRtghuHI

BRONK TV Theme also a favorite...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nxP7AHH5VA

...as is PETROCCELLI TV theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJczLDdZgvE&t=13s

Even when he does disco stuff, Lalo Schifrin was terrific as he always augmented the whole thing with great strings and counterpoint, as in GLITTER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwFA8u6NH0g

Also terrific is his BLUE LIGHT TV theme!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJd1ztkejqo

And how the hell is it possible that STARSKY AND HUTCH has never been released????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkxmKFKov3c

What about that EGAN unsold Pilot back in 1973?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ID6-RDDRbE&t=6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf2G1rc9_5E

So cool our Lalo..in BUDDY BUDDY:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKVdA6D1BQ

Even some Lalo's comtemporary scores are missing:
THE BRIDGE OF SAN LUIS REY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCAhC14bT3M

It seems however that this gorgeous theme for The Statue Of Liberty Symphonic Salute (1986) has been released in his My Life in Music CD collection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOMbzFe_usU
https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/7996433-Lalo-Schifrin-My-Life-In-Music

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

The drive to the farm prepping for the fight with that electric guitar buzzing away under the thunder to a determined beat is absolutely Cracker Jack.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Yep Thierry you know your lalo. Varrick and love n bullets are the most overdue.
Prime cut was a sparse score but some good themes.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

Yep! All Lalo's other aficionado are welcome on this thread....

And for those who like PRIME CUT, the theme to THE YOUNG LAWYERS TV show starring Lee J Cobb is very close to.
Here are 3 variations....:
PILOT MAIN TITLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmYTIB7EZSY
PILOT END TITLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCT63_NtxwA
TV show theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o03wf1Tra4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D80a82QS4eY

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

These two pal fellows are so cool!
Definitely 2 of my greatest Hollywood heroes ever...

Clint Eastwood honors Lalo Schifrin at the 2018 Governors Awards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHRWHm2D6_I

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   On the Rooftops   (Member)

There could be so many Schifrin cd premieres
Any of our companies working on these?
Already mentioned:
Prime Cut
Love and Bullets
Charley Varrick
Starsky and Hutch
Buddy Buddy
Escape to Athena
Special Delivery
And:
Murderer’s Row
The C.A.T.
Blindfold
The Dark Intruder
Who.’s Minding the Mint
Hit!
St. Ives
The Master Gunfighter
The Manitou
Black Moon Rising
The Nude Bomb
After the Sunset
Etc etc

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I love Lalo Schifrin. Not just his film scores, but his jazz writing. Three of my favorite albums are the original Dizzy Gillespie album Gillespiana, Schifrin's first work after arriving in America, an album-length multi-movement work with each section composed to feature a different aspect of Gillespie's playing, scored for Gillespie's quintet plus a heavy brass section, added percussion, and NO woodwind section. A masterful work.

The second is the Grammy-winning work Jazz Suite on the Mass Texts for alto saxophonist/flutist Paul Horn.

The third is Rock Requiem. A rock mass.

There is a lot of great unreleased Lalo Schifrin--great work, you guys, with the samples, but I think Schifrin over extended himself in films at times and scored too many sub-par films. Still, many, many great film works--The Fox, Cool Hand Luke, Bullitt, The Cincinnati Kid, and so on. I like to judge film composers by their best work and Schifrin's best is way up there.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Thank you for all those links. Wow, really takes you back!!!

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 9:04 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

There is a lot of great unreleased Lalo Schifrin--great work, you guys, with the samples, but I think Schifrin over extended himself in films at times and scored too many sub-par films. Still, many, many great film works--The Fox, Cool Hand Luke, Bullitt, The Cincinnati Kid, and so on. I like to judge film composers by their best work and Schifrin's best is way up there.

Some of these tracks from Thierry I haven't heard and it's making me want to dig more into the history of this kind of music, because I'm realizing Lalo probably had more influence on this sound of the latter part of the 60's and into the 70's than I've probably thought. I can't think of anyone else as influential as him. In the same territory was Gil Mellé, and maybe to a lesser extent, Patrick Williams and Frank Comstock, in terms of TV composers. Maybe Michel Legrand for film?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2021 - 12:08 AM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)


Some of these tracks from Thierry I haven't heard and it's making me want to dig more into the history of this kind of music, because I'm realizing Lalo probably had more influence on this sound of the latter part of the 60's and into the 70's than I've probably thought. I can't think of anyone else as influential as him. In the same territory was Gil Mellé, and maybe to a lesser extent, Patrick Williams and Frank Comstock, in terms of TV composers. Maybe Michel Legrand for film?


This is so refreshing to speak about Lalo Schifrin on this board....his influence on the way film music evolved in the late 60ies/early 70ies is indeed immense and totally underrated. So thanks for the launch of this PRIME CUT thread from the original poster. May be we should rename it: "LALO SCHIFRIN appreciation"

Schifrin is a total master of his art and, as Michel Legrand, is a total music artist: he can do everything: jazz, funk, disco, classical, film and TV music, avant-garde atonal, ethnics...plus that, exactly as Michel Legrand, he is a fabulous pianist!

I was privileged enough to see him twice in live concert with full orchestra, the first time in Paris in 2007 and the second time in London in 2008. The live performance of the ENTER THE DRAGON suite with that strings reprise was absolutely incredible.

PARIS 2007 - excerpt from the official digipack concert CD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU9Tzblfqbs
https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/12032595-Lalo-Schifrin-Le-Concert-%C3%A0-Paris

LONDON 2008 - private amateur video found on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hTWmkyrkI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPRsKgyqTjE

VIENNA - here this is a professional video for a change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQYNG71azo

I will never stop to share my enthusisam for the man and his music. Through his own Aleph Records CD label, he did release many previously unreleased scores like SKY RIDERS.

All the main labels have tried to enhance his discography over the years: thanks to Intrada and Lalaland and FSM. Oddly enough, very low interest for Lalo Schifrin stuff from the guys at Varese Sarabande at the times of Chris Küchler, Tom Null or even Robert Townson. Never understood. May be legal access issues to his catalogue I don't know? Except RUSH HOUR, I don't see any Varese edition in my Schifrin CD collection. There also was THE OSTERMAN WEEK-END on LP back in the 80ies that comes to mind.

Some people here think I am a poor negative old troll who bashes all curent film music output (see other threads), but this is not true....I am passionate for good film and TV music for about 40 years + and those who know me may second this....so I am open to any new talent.

I just so wish some creative voice of the caliber of Lalo Schifrin does eventually appear...but it doesn't.
Although I have some hopes for Benjamin Wallfisch who did a terrific retro-score for KING THIEVES starring Michael Caine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAcoY-GmS4o&list=PLfzW_wEeYxk6uWO3CeYkRu3RqN5PHrMHs&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcpGWdsxAv8&list=PLfzW_wEeYxk6uWO3CeYkRu3RqN5PHrMHs&index=10

Retro-funk speaking, I also like very much David Holmes's HAYWIRE....very closed to Roy Budd style...the british Lalo Schifrin IMHO....always jazz/funk influenced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUWD-ElT0z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzGpZ-p7Bcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mILeQg6v6kA

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2021 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

One of my favorites is Che! A terrible film. Still, Schifrin wrote one of the most touching main titles of his career--a dirge powered by flutes that overlays optimism with the tragic.

The original album on Tetragrammaton has never been released in full on CD. Aleph took all of those tracks, minus two, and then added a few others. The memorable main title--along with the infectious "recuerdos"--both made it to the Aleph recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2021 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Oh man....so many awesome scores still waiting. I hope QUARTET and INTRADA are listening , they already released such fantastic ones like HARRY IN YOUR POCKET_THE PRESIDENT`S ANALYST_JOE KIDD_COOGAN`S BLUFF...and I guess they sold pretty well..some are out of stock ...so....come on..let the groove start again.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2021 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Lalo was there at the beginning of music, in pre-historic times -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYBNoFcvcWI

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2021 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   batroc   (Member)

Lalo was there at the beginning of music, in pre-historic times -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYBNoFcvcWI


Hah! The hilarious truth is that CAVEMAN has another great, super-fun and memorable Lalo score!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2021 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Lukas ...Do the second Volume of your fantastic Schifrin Anthology FSM Package.That was such a great release...!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2021 - 1:11 AM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

Lukas ...Do the second Volume of your fantastic Schifrin Anthology FSM Package.That was such a great release...!!!!!

I did already ask him the same, but Lukas replied it's not likely to happen.

May we still hope separate discs from Intrada, Lalaland and Quartet....like those terrific RETURN TO WITCH MOUNTAIN, AIRPORT 79 CONCORDE and HARRY IN YOUR POCKET CDs ...just to name titles released by each of these 3 labels.

One question haunts me: does Lalo Schifin sells?
I hope he does....

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2021 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Yes...I know it won't happen with Lukas...but I have hopes for CHARLY VARRICK and hopefully BUDDY BUDDY (2 of my last holy grails ...highest in rank )...after SHAMUS and all those beauties have been released, which have been considered lost...
Schifrin , Gruisin, Jones, Budd ( of whom everything has been released, I guess )...are the COOL GROOVE DUDES .
And even people like Holmes and Walfish are trying....which is nice....they just dont have the mojo working.
Don't know what it is....maybe the instruments..maybe the players...or simply the writing itself.

So everything from the bigining up to 1983 by Schifrin is on my wishlist.After 1983 the disco influence and electric drums are just not my cup ....

 
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