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 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Is this a limited release? It doesn’t say it is.

What does that matter?



I suspect he is interested in knowing if it will be available for a good while, or if is likely to sell out of a limited amount very quickly.
Such questions might matter to people who want to combine orders over time, to save substantial amounts in shipping but don't want to risk the CD selling out before they finalize their order.


Yes. I've gotten burned before waiting too long to pick up a limited release when several desirable titles have hit the market all at once.


Advice: decide if really want it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I'm confused.
Got an email from DHL stating my cd of Zulu would be delivered today. But, at the bottom it says, held at Madrid until next pick up. So, if its still in Madrid, how is it going to get to me in rainy Lancashire before midnight.? I think there's an error somewhere.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Having had this on earphones I can say with delight that both the stereo and mono versions of the album tracks sound excellent.

The bonus track of previously unreleased score music, obviously from inferior sources, sounds unavoidably rough, but I'm assuming with confidence that's because of the source.

I really do think this is the best sounding release of this material to date, and with both stereo and mono versions on the same disv with bonus tracks, and Jon Burlingame's notes, it's the definitive package.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

Stephen, am I correct in thinking you have received your copy?

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I was prepared to stick with the Silva Screen re-record, but since Stephen Woolston has given it a recommendation I'll spring for it.

Besides, that cool blue-green album cover is great. I just bought the Paramount blu-ray last year, and was marveling at how such a brief score can put a movie over the top...just like Lawrence of Arabia!

Roger Feigelson was entirely correct that the guttural but smooth low-brass that Barry excelled at, and that even came to the fore in King Kong, has not been properly reproduced by Non-Barry interpreters and engineering teams.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2021 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

The more I listen to the Quartet Records samples, the more anticipation I get.

I've yet to be disappointed with any of Chris Malone's restorations.

By the way Stephen Woolston, is it known for certain that this score was recorded post-Goldfinger? It has a sound that's got a lot in common with that other brassy classic.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2021 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Recorded pre-Goldfinger. Within a month of From Russia With Love, I forget if it was just before or after. The liner notes list the recording dates.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2021 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

Yes, it would have been pre-Goldfinger. I would venture that Zulu’s musical character and recording technique shares a lot in common with From Russia With Love.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2021 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

Chris Malone is to be congratulated for giving us the best sounding version of this score to date.

The brass continues to overwhelm the strings at times in the mono mix, which I suppose couldn't be fixed without recourse to the original recording. But the stereo balance sounds fantastic.

I only wish whoever assembled the album originally had used the same take of "Rorke's Drift Threatened" that was used in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2021 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

I only wish whoever assembled the album originally had used the same take of "Rorke's Drift Threatened" that was used in the film.

Yes! Well spotted! The last 17 seconds of “Rorke’s Drift Threatened” are from a different take in the film. There’s an extra set of timpani hits in the film and that last part is also a little faster.

“Durnfold’s Horse Arrive And Depart” is also a different take.

Unfortunately, the raw takes were not able to be located, otherwise we definitely would have included them.

Chris

 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2021 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I only wish whoever assembled the album originally had used the same take of "Rorke's Drift Threatened" that was used in the film.

Yes! Well spotted! The last 17 seconds of “Rorke’s Drift Threatened” are from a different take in the film. There’s an extra set of timpani hits in the film and that last part is also a little faster.




Listening to that section in the Raine re-recording, it seems the same as the album version.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2021 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

It is definitely pre-Goldfinger. I saw Zulu in Spring 1964, it had premiered in January 1964. Goldfinger was recorded in Summer 1964 and premiered in September 1964.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2021 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

It is definitely pre-Goldfinger. I saw Zulu in Spring 1964, it had premiered in January 1964. Goldfinger was recorded in Summer 1964 and premiered in September 1964.

"Goldfinger" premiered in the U.K. in 9/'64 and in the U.S. on 12/25/'64.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2021 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I know that the Zulu stamps have taken some hits here. Some work better than others, but I've always loved the original recording of "Monkey Feathers" with its very 60s cool guitar twang rendition of the Zulu theme. In fact, I heard this track before I was able to buy the soundtrack back in the 60s--and before i saw the film, so I didn't know that the cool theme was THE theme of the film. When I first saw Zulu on TV I was pleasantly surprised to hear the melody play virtually every time music was used. And just blown away by the power of the orchestral arrangements. So, hearing "Monkey Feathers" on this new CD for the first time in several years brought back many pleasant memories. Plus, it still sounds cool.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2021 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

I did place an order for the new remastered Zulu CD, but I still have my trusty old Silva Screen FILMCD 022 version from 1988.

Is the "Rorke's Drift Threatened" on the old CD the "correct" version from the film?

https://www.amazon.com/Zulu-Soundtrack-Themes-John-Barry/dp/B000026226/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3PVSMODZKMQOH&keywords=zulu+soundtrack+silva+screen&qid=1640652543&s=music&sprefix=zulu+soundtrack+silva+screen%2Cmusic-intl-ship%2C102&sr=1-1

The old CD is worth keeping because it includes extra tracks not on the new CD like "Elizabeth Theme" and "The London Theme" etc.

It also includes "Yesterday's Gone" and "No Tears For Johnny" which I always enjoy listening to.

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2021 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   JRP   (Member)

Came home from work and found this waiting for me. I haven’t been this excited to play a new soundtrack since Quartet’s The Good, the Bad and the Ugly! I’ve wanted a definitive release of this score for a long time. Chris Malone, you did a fantastic job, as always.

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2021 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

"Sentries report...zulus to the south east....thousands of them...."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2021 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

"Sentries report...zulus to the south east....thousands of them...."

Next line- " fkn hell"

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2021 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

I did place an order for the new remastered Zulu CD, but I still have my trusty old Silva Screen FILMCD 022 version from 1988.

Is the "Rorke's Drift Threatened" on the old CD the "correct" version from the film?

https://www.amazon.com/Zulu-Soundtrack-Themes-John-Barry/dp/B000026226/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3PVSMODZKMQOH&keywords=zulu+soundtrack+silva+screen&qid=1640652543&s=music&sprefix=zulu+soundtrack+silva+screen%2Cmusic-intl-ship%2C102&sr=1-1

The old CD is worth keeping because it includes extra tracks not on the new CD like "Elizabeth Theme" and "The London Theme" etc.

It also includes "Yesterday's Gone" and "No Tears For Johnny" which I always enjoy listening to.


Chris Malone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe every LP and CD release of the original film recording uses the album master prepared by Ember, which does not use the film version of "Rorke's Drift Threatened".

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2021 - 11:03 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I did place an order for the new remastered Zulu CD, but I still have my trusty old Silva Screen FILMCD 022 version from 1988.

Is the "Rorke's Drift Threatened" on the old CD the "correct" version from the film?

https://www.amazon.com/Zulu-Soundtrack-Themes-John-Barry/dp/B000026226/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3PVSMODZKMQOH&keywords=zulu+soundtrack+silva+screen&qid=1640652543&s=music&sprefix=zulu+soundtrack+silva+screen%2Cmusic-intl-ship%2C102&sr=1-1

The old CD is worth keeping because it includes extra tracks not on the new CD like "Elizabeth Theme" and "The London Theme" etc.

It also includes "Yesterday's Gone" and "No Tears For Johnny" which I always enjoy listening to.


Back in 1988 this was an excellent compilation of Barry's recordings on the Ember label ... but 30+ years on its value is very limited, not least because the overall sound quality throughout is less than stellar.

There have been many releases of this material and whilst I haven't heard them all, I now find that of its 25 tracks, I retain only one track from that old compilation - tr.18: Zulu Stamp (I must re-check but presume I preferred this recording).

Elizabeth Theme and London Theme are from Barry's TV score Elizabeth Taylor in London (1963)

And whilst Yesterday's Gone includes Barry as conductor, No Tears for Johnny was conducted by Johnnie Spence.

 
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