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 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

This upcoming Thomas Newman score is eligible for this years Oscars even if it hasn't been released yet. I hope that it will be good and that Newman gets a nomination.

"One unexpected entry on the eligible list is “Operation Mincemeat,” music for a World War II thriller by 15-time nominee Thomas Newman, which has not yet been theatrically released in the United States, yet would certainly be a contender considering the composer’s popularity within the music branch (and the fact that he is still without a win after more than 35 years in the business)."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

I want desperately to get my hopes up but I feel like -- and I say this as a massive 2000s Newman fan, especially of the American Beauty stuff -- that his style recently has devolved into composing complete nothingness bordering on non-musical ambient sound design. I want Newman to hit a stride again but he seems content working in small, no-budget films whose needs are limited.

Here's to hoping...

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I agree with c8. Maybe he deserved a win decades ago, but it's highly unlikely he's going to do a score that deserves to win at this point. That is to say: they may think he does, but in reality...

I listened to an audio interview years ago where Thomas said these are the kind of scores he wants to do now. That doesn't mean there won't be scores here and there that are some level or return to his previous style, but he's made his mold and seems to be happy with it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I generally prefer his smaller scores to his bigger ones.

A score like The Salton Sea for example was a masterpiece of experimental sound design and texture - it is probably even a top 10 Newman score for me. I probably love it just as much as his best orchestral scores.

I do however agree that some of his most recent scores are among his least interesting work. The Little Things in particular ranks near the bottom of all of his work. The Highwaymen from two years ago is probably his best recent score, and it was quite good, especially in context. I think that Newman's wide-open-spaces string cues in his score for The Highwaymen are as beautiful as anything Aaron Copland ever wrote in that vein—and they don't sound derivative, either. It is one of the best scores that I have heard in recent years - and he wasn't even nominated for it. Talk about being underrated despite getting 15 nominations...

He has deserved to win the Oscar many times - he is one of the most original and unique voices in film music history. He is the most original film composer working today.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

Just when I though this flick boasted the most unconvincing Churchill ever to grace a motion picture, along came MUNICH: EDGE OF WAR to outdo it with hands-down the most unconvinving Hitler ever in a motion picture.

And if you don't believe me, check out the trailers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHBUHz8Qmis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ7x8odi-OU

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

If I had to predict how this score will sound like, it will probably be along the lines of 1917.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 4:24 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

If I had to predict how this score will sound like, it will probably be along the lines of 1917.

Excellent, I love Newman's work for 1917.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

If I had to predict how this score will sound like, it will probably be along the lines of 1917.

Excellent, I love Newman's work for 1917.


Same! Been waiting for a new Newman score like that since...well, 1917! lol

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I think we can all agree, by now, that it's gonna sound like your typical Thomas Newman score.
The days of him surprising anyone are long gone (if even they ever existed?).
I've certainly been a fan of his over the years (even if I much prefer the scores by his brother, David), but I now find myself enjoying 5...maybe 10 - at a push - tracks from his scores and whittling the rest away.
Got the trailer last night, before WEST SIDE STORY and I honestly thought the film was a spoof at first.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

My fear is that the score will be similar to The Good German, which I'm not too keen on.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

My fear is that the score will be similar to The Good German, which I'm not too keen on.

Me neither. I find The Good German to be too much of a self-conscious pastiche score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I can't imagine John Madden requesting vintage/pastiche music of a 40s melodramatic type score the way Soderbergh did.
But that would be a surprise, yes.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think we can all agree, by now, that it's gonna sound like your typical Thomas Newman score.
The days of him surprising anyone are long gone (if even they ever existed?).
I've certainly been a fan of his over the years (even if I much prefer the scores by his brother, David), but I now find myself enjoying 5...maybe 10 - at a push - tracks from his scores and whittling the rest away.
Got the trailer last night, before WEST SIDE STORY and I honestly thought the film was a spoof at first.


Newman going all out Golden Age in THE GOOD GERMAN or all out horror in THE GREEN MILE were certainly big surprises. But yeah, it's been a while. Meanwhile, I'm very comforted by classic Newmanisms, sometimes channeled through various idioms, like Indian music in MALALA/MARIGOLD/VIC&ABDUL, or jazz in LET THEM ALL TALK. I don't go to Newman for the totally new, I go to him for his classic, soothing sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

The days of him surprising anyone are long gone (if even they ever existed?).

I don't agree with you at all. Thomas Newman keeps surprising. His recent score for Let Them All Talk for example must count as a somewhat a surprise score. Newman isn't particularly keen on John Barry yet he was asked to write like that. It certainly isn't a typical Newman score, but i'm not even entirely sure what a typical Newman score means. Hybrid score or his orchestral writing? Newman is one of the most consistently surprising composers that we have. There is a lot of variety and surprises to be found in his scores as he often likes to vary the instrumentation and so on. The Indian music phase of his career (Marigold/Malala/Victoria & Abdul) must also count as a surprise when he first did it, it was something new for him.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

VICTORIA & ABDUL is fantastic. "Quenelle With Regency Sauce, Etc." was a huge surprise for me, and one of the most lively cues he's written.

I would call SKYFALL a huge surprise, as who would have thought he'd get a job like that and actually be able to pull it off so well? "Quartermaster" is a masterpiece.

I know we're getting back 18 years now, but who would have thought he'd transition well into scoring Pixar movies?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2021 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   trados   (Member)

It seems the release of "The Mincemeat Operation" will be delayed till april in the Uk, so probably this score won't compete for the oscars this year and maybe this is the reason why we haven't heard a second of his score by now.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2021 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   chriswg24   (Member)

Is there a U.S. release date for the film via Netflix? I would have thought there would be a FYC site for the score if there's even a chance it could be in the Oscar mix.

Is Newman not also scoring Mendes' next film 'Empire of Light' and John Lee Hancock's "Mr Harrigan's Phone" this year?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2022 - 11:44 PM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

The score is set to be released on April 22, 2022.



Tracklist:

1. Submarine Rises
2. Iris
3. Room 13
4. Fresh as a Daisy
5. Briefcase in Madrid
6. Our Story Begins…
7. Single Diamond Ring
8. I’m Going to Get Lit Up (When the Lights Go Up in London)
9. Gulf of Cádiz
10. War Hero
11. Deader and Deader
12. Last Lovely Golden Day
13. Haversack Ruse
14. Toast
15. Holy Loch
16. Dull as Ditchwater
17. Fishwife
18. Jean Leslie
19. Peckin’
20. The Burial is Set
21. Officer in the Royal Marines
22. Dangerous Waters
23. A Missing Eyelash
24. Fifth Column
25. A Spy Under My Roof
26. Operation Mincemeat
27. Limited Casualties
28. Fallen Soldier
29. Personal and Most Secret

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2022 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

And on CD too!!
The decisions behind the release of film scores on CD these days never fails to confound me.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2022 - 2:31 AM   
 By:   Jimmyt76   (Member)

I cannot wait!!
And good on Lakeshore records for planning a CD release - that's such good news.

 
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