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 Posted:   Dec 17, 2021 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Premiered on Wednesday in Poland:

https://twitter.com/egoldenthal/status/1471248421189308418?s=21

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

Hopefully we'll get a recording of this and his other recent concert works at some point.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 12:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Interesting, of course.

How does he count the first two -- the Othello symphony and Symphony in G Minor? The first is an adaption, after all.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


How does he count the first two -- the Othello symphony and Symphony in G Minor? The first is an adaption, after all.



Still a symphony. And hardly the first composer to adapt an incidental work to a symphony -- just off the top of my head, Prokofiev also did it with a ballet and Vaughan-Williams with a film score....and hell even back in the day Mozart made symphonies out of some of his serenades (through they are rarely included among his 'proper' symphonies)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I suppose so, yes.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   JimWare   (Member)

Interesting, of course.

How does he count the first two -- the Othello symphony and Symphony in G Minor? The first is an adaption, after all.


The 'Symphony in G# Minor' is an adaptation too - big chunks of 'Final Fantasy' and 'Sphere' in there.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

This reminds me of the critic who reviewed a concert of film composer's concert works a number of years ago.

He said that Elliot Goldenthal's Symphony in G# Minor was BRILLIANT, John Williams' piece was okay, Howard Shore's and James Horner's works sucked.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

He said that Elliot Goldenthal's Symphony in G# Minor was BRILLIANT, John Williams' piece was okay, Howard Shore's and James Horner's works sucked.

I have a recording of that concert; I was sent the radio broadcast. It's a great one.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Incidentally, either i had no idea the Symphony in g# even existed, or I forgot after seven years...so nice 'reminder'.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2021 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Interesting, of course.

How does he count the first two -- the Othello symphony and Symphony in G Minor? The first is an adaption, after all.


The 'Symphony in G# Minor' is an adaptation too - big chunks of 'Final Fantasy' and 'Sphere' in there.


The list could go on and on…the mother of all film scores turned into concert works would be the Korngold Violin Concerto. The third movement of Philip Glass’s Seventh is from Powaqqatsi. The theme in movement 1 of Elfman’s violin concerto is from Justice League. Corigliano’s Red Violin Concerto; Nyman’s The Piano Concerto; Rozsa’s Spellbound Concerto, James Newton Howard’s Cello Concerto is from Red Sparrow, bits of Goldsmith’s Christus Apollo are in Chinatown; Morricone’s The Mission reappears in his Voci dal Silenzio and Mass for John Paul II…with all this re-use it’s kinda amazing that the king of re-use and liberal “quotation,” Horner, didn’t really use found objects for his two concertos. John Williams’ Elegy…The release of Don Davis’ Pain this week has some Matrix in it for sure…some of that migrated over into the movie:

Heck John Adams’ Harmonielehre’s third movement is stolen from his ballet Light Over Water. I’m all for creative reuse.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2022 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

You can now stream Goldenthal's Symphony No. 3 here: https://www.playkrakow.com/en/vod/vod.2479

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2022 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Nice! Please record it, someone.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2022 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Reminds me of late Shostakovich symphonies, with the singer(s) and is about as easy to listen to. Could use some tempo contrasts but it remains mostly slow and dour all the way through.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2022 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Double post

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2022 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

You can now stream Goldenthal's Symphony No. 3 here: https://www.playkrakow.com/en/vod/vod.2479

Can one view this without signing up? For those of you have signed up, is there a fee?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2022 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

You can now stream Goldenthal's Symphony No. 3 here: https://www.playkrakow.com/en/vod/vod.2479

Can one view this without signing up? For those of you have signed up, is there a fee?


I just signed up, no fee

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2022 - 2:03 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

You can now stream Goldenthal's Symphony No. 3 here: https://www.playkrakow.com/en/vod/vod.2479

Can one view this without signing up? For those of you have signed up, is there a fee?


I don't think that it is possible to view it without signing up. There wasn't a fee when I signed up, so I doubt it that there is one now.

As for the work itself... I almost forgot about it, and I am a Goldenthal completist. I remember not enjoying it that much, as one poster wrote, it was mostly slow and dour all the way through. Not one of my favorite Goldenthal works.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2022 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Good that there's not a fee, but I don't need to sign up to any more things at the moment. I must have about a gazillion subscription thingies running, and I get loads of ads whenever I do. I'll stay patient for a bit more. 'Slow' and 'dour', however, sounds interesting to me. I've grown somewhat tired of the big and busy and epic.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2022 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

You can now stream Goldenthal's Symphony No. 3 here: https://www.playkrakow.com/en/vod/vod.2479

Can one view this without signing up? For those of you have signed up, is there a fee?


I don't think that it is possible to view it without signing up. There wasn't a fee when I signed up, so I doubt it that there is one now.

As for the work itself... I almost forgot about it, and I am a Goldenthal completist. I remember not enjoying it that much, as one poster wrote, it was mostly slow and dour all the way through. Not one of my favorite Goldenthal works.


Yes, why didn’t he write an upbeat work about a mother’s son being arrested, beaten, and murdered by an authoritarian govt.

 
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