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 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

Agreed they are some great sets and I can only imagine how unexpected they might have seemed when originally released! Maybe someone will re-release and remaster them as boxed sets someday.

I commented elsewhere that it would be great if someone did something similar with JW's Lost in Space, Land of the Giants and Time Tunnel scores. A double disc with newly recorded suites would be great and would be an even more noticeable audible upgrade to the original mono recordings (great though they are on the LLL sets).

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

I have a mega playlist for the re-recordings. I wish there were more re-recordings. The box set is great and all but still prefer to hear the music in stereo.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Are there any stories about making these albums or how they came to be?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Goatmeal   (Member)

Still a fan of them; bought the cassettes in the mid-to-late '80s, migrated to the CDs in the early '90s.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Agreed they are some great sets and I can only imagine how unexpected they might have seemed when originally released!

Back in the day, I didn't even know they were coming. I was at Record World and saw the first Varese LP and flipped out. Then the first and second Label X. I was in heaven and played them all until they were scratched to hell.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I love them too.

Some of the recordings were slower than the OSTs and all had more of a concert hall feel rather than the closer, tighter feel of the OSTs, and for that reason I still craved the originals.

However, now I have the OSTs, I'm paradoxically able to love these recordings even more, because I'm no longer listening to them wishing the originals would come out.

Cheers


Exactly this.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

For me, I listened to these so much that they allow me to appreciate the Originals more AND the Rerecordings more. For what they are and are not.

Obviously, there's the aforementioned omissions like in Conscience of the King where you have the Shakespearean Source and the Phaser Buildup. Those are both absolutely amazing! And yet, the Re-recording does something unique with the material. It takes the Courage fanfare that Mullendore resolves in a really warm, satisfying "well that wraps it all up" way, and saves it for the very end of the suite, whereas in the original recording, the particular arrangement is heard more than once throughout. It's singular appearance is here at 8:50, such a perfect ending to the suite.

https://youtu.be/48GKJGTH6Yc?t=465

I truly wish Mullendore had had the opportunity to do more Trek scores. His romantic themes are at the George Duning level for me.

And speaking of Duning and changing the tonality of a theme for the ending and resolution from mysterious and longing to content and satisfying, I just love this bit from Is There No Truth in Beauty where Duning finally gives Diana Muldaur's Miranda Jones theme a fully realized romantic tone after the conflict is resolved. I can't find it on YouTube, but it's similar to what Mullendore did with Courage's Fanfare and Lenore's Theme, resolving in contentment and tonal satisfaction.

I also think Fielding's Specter of the Gun works splendidly as an offbeat, oddly lonely sounding piece. The suite makes it all flow really nicely. There's a wonderful woodwind that echoes the harmonica motif that creates a surprisingly melancholy tone, almost reflective of the austere sets in the third season. Like the opening of The Empath, it's those quieter moments that somehow allow the listener's mind to appreciate a soundscape that isn't limited by the size of the studio or orchestra.

And Paradise Syndrome works both ways, it's just so damn good.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

For some people the re-recordings are the first ones they ever heard and one always has a soft spot for the first performance they ever heard.

This is what happened to me with Gerhardt's masterful CE3K suite.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)


I truly wish Mullendore had had the opportunity to do more Trek scores. His romantic themes are at the George Duning level for me.


Mullendore's score and his library cues for Trek are top notch. He also really nailed the right tone for Lost in Space and his one score for Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. When he did an episode of The Time Tunnel, it was actually the opposite of his usual light, floaty style. He crushed the drama perfectly.

He was a classical composer masquerading as a tv series music composer, doing that stuff before John Williams made it his stock-in-trade.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Goatmeal   (Member)

Was it my imagination, or was there supposed to be a 3rd Varese Sarabande album of re-recorded Star Trek music?

For some reason, I seem to remember seeing a mock-up or "coming soon" advertisement, or perhaps even a reference in a music/soundtrack book in the mid-to-late '80s. "Catspaw" was definitely supposed to be on the 3rd album; I waited for years, but it never came out...

Thanks for any help. Or at least confirmation of my losing battle with sanity.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Charlie Chan   (Member)

Yes I like these recordings too. Although I prefer the score excerpts over the arrangement of the main theme.
I got the Bremner recordings on vinyl from ebay.
When they arrived they turned out to be buckled. I did think about returning them.
However, can anyone else out there claim to have Star Trek albums that play at warp speed?
Stay safe and well
CC.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Was it my imagination, or was there supposed to be a 3rd Varese Sarabande album of re-recorded Star Trek music?


I never saw the mock-up nor any ads for it. In the liner notes to Volume 1, Steiner says this is the first in a "projected series" of Star Trek albums. That's what made us think more than two would be coming. I spent years wishing there had been a third one, with "Spock's Brain" and "Elaan of Troyius" on it. It would be 2012 before we had it all.


I got the Bremner recordings on vinyl from ebay. When they arrived they turned out to be buckled. I did think about returning them.


I'm so glad I got the four Royal Phil's on CD to begin with, and the three GNPs. I love the CD format for the giant leap it brought over vinyl. They're hard to scratch, repeated plays do not wear them out, there's no surface noise, and barring a manufacturing defect they will outlive you in perfect condition. For a guy who spent the 1970s buying LPs, that still seems fantastic.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2022 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I don't think that's paradoxical at all Stephen, but instead makes perfect logical sense. They've become a pleasant extra alternative rather than a disappointing substitute for the "real thing".

Yavar


Ah, The Alternative Factor!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2022 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

Was it my imagination, or was there supposed to be a 3rd Varese Sarabande album of re-recorded Star Trek music?


I never saw the mock-up nor any ads for it. In the liner notes to Volume 1, Steiner says this is the first in a "projected series" of Star Trek albums. That's what made us think more than two would be coming. I spent years wishing there had been a third one, with "Spock's Brain" and "Elaan of Troyius" on it. It would be 2012 before we had it all.


I got the Bremner recordings on vinyl from ebay. When they arrived they turned out to be buckled. I did think about returning them.


I'm so glad I got the four Royal Phil's on CD to begin with, and the three GNPs. I love the CD format for the giant leap it brought over vinyl. They're hard to scratch, repeated plays do not wear them out, there's no surface noise, and barring a manufacturing defect they will outlive you in perfect condition. For a guy who spent the 1970s buying LPs, that still seems fantastic.


Bless you sir. I feel th same way. May your reward in heaven be great.
--jthree

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2022 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

For me, they're the musical equivalent of the newer effects for TOS, in how well they were done, less affected by the reasonable 1960's TV production limitations, but also so respectful and well matched to the originals that neither replaces the other. I'm very glad to have both, and still very much love these.

 
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