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 Posted:   May 15, 2022 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   vncvbv   (Member)

For me this is a vast improvement over Kritzerland's release.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2022 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

For me this is a vast improvement over Kritzerland's release.

Cool. I never bothered with the Kirtzerland edition. Gonna pick up the waxwork one. Better artwork too.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2022 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

For me this is a vast improvement over Kritzerland's release.


Remember their initial 2-CD set with the album version and the actual film score on separate discs? That was actually a very good release.

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2022 - 10:11 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Remember their initial 2-CD set with the album version and the actual film score on separate discs? That was actually a very good release.

I missed the 2-CD version, but have their reissue with the complete score on its own. Damn fine score to a damn fine movie.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2022 - 1:14 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

For me this is a vast improvement over Kritzerland's release.

Oh really? Since they used our CD please let everyone know how it is a VAST improvement. They're using OUR mix, which, BTW, we paid for and for which I'm sure we receive no credit.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2022 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

For me this is a vast improvement over Kritzerland's release.

Cool. I never bothered with the Kirtzerland edition. Gonna pick up the waxwork one. Better artwork too.


Why didn't you bother with the Kritzerland release? I don't get it.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2022 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I'm still not over the thrill I experienced when the Kritzerland CD turned out to have the full-length film version of "I Never Dreamed..."

It was drowned out in the movie and never released anywhere, but there it was. That first-time play, when the song went into its instrumental bridge, was one of the great moments of my music-buying life. And it's such a great song.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2022 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

For me this is a vast improvement over Kritzerland's release.

Can you enlighten me as to how?

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2022 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

For me this is a vast improvement over Kritzerland's release.

Can you enlighten me as to how?

Cheers


Also do they give credit to the mixer and digital editor of the KRITZERLAND release?


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2022 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

All carping aside, I think we can all agree it's a good thing this all-time great score remains in print.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2022 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

All carping aside, I think we can all agree it's a good thing this all-time great score remains in print.

Oh yeah, definitely agree with that.

Just curious to know why an earlier poster thinks this is far superior to the Kritzerland.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2022 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   vncvbv   (Member)

All carping aside, I think we can all agree it's a good thing this all-time great score remains in print.

Oh yeah, definitely agree with that.

Just curious to know why an earlier poster thinks this is far superior to the Kritzerland.

Cheers


Hey I loved the Kritzerland CD when it came out & it was a great release, I just think listening to the scores side by side there is for more depth & clarity on this version, probably due to advances in technology in the decade since it's initial release, but to clarify I'm sure if James Nelson remastered it now it would be just as good as this version.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2022 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Hey I loved the Kritzerland CD when it came out & it was a great release, I just think listening to the scores side by side there is for more depth & clarity on this version


That must be in the ear of the beholder, because the Kritzerland CD has all the depth and clarity I can imagine. But it's out of print, so there's no harm in hyping the new release, which I'm sure also sounds fine.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Hey I loved the Kritzerland CD when it came out & it was a great release, I just think listening to the scores side by side there is for more depth & clarity on this version


That must be in the ear of the beholder, because the Kritzerland CD has all the depth and clarity I can imagine. But it's out of print, so there's no harm in hyping the new release, which I'm sure also sounds fine.


Exactly right. If they're using our mix, which obviously they are, you can't get more depth and clarity out of a mix we created and James Nelson mastered. Yes, you can raise the volume, which they've apparently done and is not something we would have done.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 2:33 AM   
 By:   vncvbv   (Member)

Hey I loved the Kritzerland CD when it came out & it was a great release, I just think listening to the scores side by side there is for more depth & clarity on this version


That must be in the ear of the beholder, because the Kritzerland CD has all the depth and clarity I can imagine. But it's out of print, so there's no harm in hyping the new release, which I'm sure also sounds fine.


Exactly right. If they're using our mix, which obviously they are, you can't get more depth and clarity out of a mix we created and James Nelson mastered. Yes, you can raise the volume, which they've apparently done and is not something we would have done.


Well we can disagree on this but according to of the LP release (in the description & on the back cover) some remastering was done...

https://waxworkrecords.com/collections/all/products/carrie-1

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 3:18 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Hey I loved the Kritzerland CD when it came out & it was a great release, I just think listening to the scores side by side there is for more depth & clarity on this version


That must be in the ear of the beholder, because the Kritzerland CD has all the depth and clarity I can imagine. But it's out of print, so there's no harm in hyping the new release, which I'm sure also sounds fine.


Exactly right. If they're using our mix, which obviously they are, you can't get more depth and clarity out of a mix we created and James Nelson mastered. Yes, you can raise the volume, which they've apparently done and is not something we would have done.


Well we can disagree on this but according to of the LP release (in the description & on the back cover) some remastering was done...

https://waxworkrecords.com/collections/all/products/carrie-1


Do you understand what "remastering" actually means. They had to make a new master to release this, so, in that regard, sure they "remastered" it and turned up the volume. Swell. And actually, it doesn't say anything other than the expanded and remastered soundtrack - which is exactly what ours was.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I've been burned too many times with claims of "remastering". I could EQ wave files on my own and I'm not too bad at audio mastering. I don't need to re-buy a release to do that.

What is annoying is that with all that noise, when a release is really an upgrade, e.g. lower generation tapes were found, it is quite difficult to figure out because there are so many false positives from labels and forum members.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

What is annoying is that with all that noise, when a release is really an upgrade, e.g. lower generation tapes were found, it is quite difficult to figure out because there are so many false positives from labels and forum members.


Yep. Happily, Kritzerland used the Generation One tapes of Carrie, and transferred them when analog-to-digital converters were a mature technology (i.e., 2012, not 1987). And since Generation Zero is the paper sheet music, I think we're set for life.

People without the Kritzerland should buy the Waxwork. Affluent collectors should, also.

 
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