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 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

I'm not a backer in this, so have no skin in this game, but the money is SOMEWHERE, surely? Possibly earning someone interest, even? It can't just be... gone? Can it?

How often have people been burned on Kickstarters like this?

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I'm not a backer in this, so have no skin in this game, but the money is SOMEWHERE, surely? Possibly earning someone interest, even? It can't just be... gone? Can it?





 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Not much backers can do to be honest other than report it to Kickstarter over and over again. Just visit the original campaign page, and scroll all the way to the bottom.

I am still curious that Jeff’s book for the Irwin Allen was put out by Titan Books. They have another title coming with the Crow coming later this year.As we have no details on who is printing this I would love it was Titan but my gut says otherwise.

Jeff also has the Music of Star Trek book coming via Amazon later this year too.

For Amazon they do both softcover and hardcover on demand printing and this would have been the easiest route to get the book done and shipped to backers IMHO even internationally.


The thoughts about money going to other debts are absolutely possible, or maybe a deal went bad and the original printer took the money or they printed a crap ton of error filled books - I am sure there is more happening behind the scenes here and as others have speculated.

I still think Jeff chiming in about signing book plates is a good sign. If the books are being printed overseas I imagine delays can crop up for a number of reasons including shipments being held up. No updates just keeps the speculation gears turning…

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I'm not a backer in this, so have no skin in this game, but the money is SOMEWHERE, surely? Possibly earning someone interest, even? It can't just be... gone? Can it?

How often have people been burned on Kickstarters like this?



My guess is White has put the money in some other hole, hoping that project would earn him enough profit to have the books printed — and somehow that plan didn’t fell through.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


My guess is White has put the money in some other hole, hoping that project would earn him enough profit to have the books printed — and somehow that plan didn’t fell through.


Would be a dumb move. And possibly illegal. Sure, Kickstarter doesn't care, but fraud or embezzlement, and that’s what we are talking about in such a case, is still against the law, Kickstarter is not a liability-free zone.

He had the money to print the books, and then some! So he didn't need another project to make money to print the books. He could have printed the books and still have money left for other projects.

Books get published all the time, so it’s not as if that's hypercomplicated, especially not when you have the financial resources.

Last update said books will be "in our hands" this year, which means they should be printed in early November at the latest (better October), considering that they then still need to be shipped around the world.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)



There are a lot of images of this guy.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

We can post him all day long! big grin

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I can’t seem to find the “report this project” tab on the website. Just the smiley face/frown face buttons. I smashed that frown button hard.

Edit - so it looks like each backer can only report the project once. I did find a way to contact kickstarter directly in the FAQ and sent a request for them to look into it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I can’t seem to find the “report this project” tab on the website. Just the smiley face/frown face buttons.


You'll find report button underneath all the money that's been collected.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Reality: The Kickstarter campaign wrapped on June 15 at a bit over $171K - original goal, $19K.

In one month, it will have been two YEARS since the campaign closed. They got all that money within a month, less the fees. The book was already written. So, let's add six months to get it formatted and photos in. Apparently, it had never occurred to have anyone proof the book. So, what, they send out PDFs last year and it's riddled with errors and suddenly the backers of the book are the proofers. That's done. Then the endless printer stuff, which has been going on long before the proofing debacle. And which continues. The questions are quite simple but no one wants to do an update and answer them:

Is the book at the printers? A simple yes or no is all it takes.

If so, when will they be delivered to the backers? If no, when WILL they be at the printers, a REAL date and timeline and when can the backers expect them - a real date and timeline.

That's about it, really. And yet, simple as those questions are, they remain unanswered. I've known Taylor for many, many years now. I used to go to the Burbank store every Saturday and bought lots of goodies there. We've done a few things together. When I first saw the PDFs and what's been going on I wrote him and said I'd be happy to help. He said let's have lunch next week. That was many eons ago and I've never heard from him since. Things go awry. Things get to the "it's one thing after another" place. I understand all of it. What I will NEVER EVER understand on something like this is - silence. THAT is what has people talking about lawsuits and legal action. And it's so unnecessary. Do an update every couple of weeks. Even if things are stalled, tell people why and what's being done to move it along. That's all it would take and it's what should have been happening for the past year.

Taylor, you're old pal is trying to be helpful. Please do an update.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I find this part of the last update amusing “Taylor has obtained some much needed assistance that should help wrapping up whatever loose ends remain”
Like, over 900% total haul and you still sought out “much needed assistance?” Really?

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I don't know whether the book is a the printers or not. One thing i do know is that everyone has been taken to the cleaners.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2025 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Andy_   (Member)

Maybe he blew it on drugs?

 
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