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 Posted:   Mar 15, 2022 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   chrissiddallmusic   (Member)

Just to clarify, because it came up in the "What Kamen scores are left to expand?"-thread here and over at JWFAN: no actual alternates or additional cues were left off the Deluxe Edition.

The cues Chris Siddall might refer to are Michael's 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. takes of cues that were revised by him in the process of the recording sessions. While undoubtedly interesting, those are just work in progress takes (no alternates to be considered) and do not represent Michael's final version of the respective cue.

If one regards every take from each cue as something that should be released then no release so far is complete.
Again, no alternates or final takes were omitted. It's all there.


In fact the cues I refer to were revised. There were two weeks of sessions. In the first week cues were recorded, rewritten over the course of the week and new final cues recorded in the second week. Therefore I think that the original versions are of interest, since they were recorded to the same standard as the final cues (and could be mixed to the same level of polish), and are in most cases significantly different in terms of structure, orchestration and tone (i.e. not just lengthened or shortened to match a scene edit). I'm not sure why that would not be classed as an "alternate" cue than the one used in the final picture but it's certainly not nothing.

Regarding the Director's Cut, the new scenes used licensed source music:

Tomorrow, The Moon (George Bruns) and
When You Wish Upon A Star (Leigh Harline/Ned Washington)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2022 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

Hey Chris, I think I see what you mean. But then it's a matter of opinion I believe :-)
Those cues are work in progress to me. Michael often just revised his cues as long until he arrived at the version he was happy with. Again, those early takes would be interesting from an archival standpoint, no doubt. But it's not like there're tons of completely different alternate cues out there, like e.g. " The Enterprise" from STAR TREK TMP.
So I think it's fair to say that the Deluxe Edition is complete^^

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2022 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)



Regarding the Director's Cut, the new scenes used licensed source music:

Tomorrow, The Moon (George Bruns) and
When You Wish Upon A Star (Leigh Harline/Ned Washington)


Thanks for the info. Good to know!

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2022 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

In fact the cues I refer to were revised. There were two weeks of sessions. In the first week cues were recorded, rewritten over the course of the week and new final cues recorded in the second week. Therefore I think that the original versions are of interest, since they were recorded to the same standard as the final cues (and could be mixed to the same level of polish), and are in most cases significantly different in terms of structure, orchestration and tone (i.e. not just lengthened or shortened to match a scene edit). I'm not sure why that would not be classed as an "alternate" cue than the one used in the final picture but it's certainly not nothing.

You clearly know a lot more about this than I do (because, well, I know nothing).

But I think a lot of people around here assume that alternates like this are the composer's original vision before some higher-up demanded changes. Sometimes, that's true. But sometimes, a composer will feel unsatisfied at the recording and make the changes on his own. In that sense, the "original," while performed by an orchestra, is really still a rough draft, and though that might provide an interesting insight into the creative process, I would never expect any artist to want his rough drafts released publicly.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2022 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So who else is thinking of purchasing this companion display piece to go with their deluxe Iron Giant soundtrack?

https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/the-iron-giant-iron-giant-bolt-mondo-907477

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2022 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   kam   (Member)

About 190 units remain, if the shopping cart is accurate

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2022 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   kam   (Member)

Down to the last 70 units

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2022 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   kam   (Member)

Less than 10 units remain at Varese

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2022 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

And it's outta here! Sold out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2022 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

So lets go for LICENSE TO KILL now complete...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2022 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

And it's outta here! Sold out.

Still available at the Int. Store though

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2022 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I find it hard to believe this "sold out" before HTTYD2. Perhaps they sold the initial print run? We know these companies don't print the entire lot all at one time. Or perhaps it was a low seller and they have no plans to print the entire 2000.

 
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