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Thanks! So the family kept some stuff...wonder where it is?
Lukas
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May 17, 2022 - 7:39 AM
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Broughtfan
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A question for the folks who know these things...
Jerry Goldsmith's motion picture sketches were donated to the AMPAS library:
https://collections.new.oscars.org/Details/Collection/661
However, where are the television sketches?
Thanks!
Lukas
Lukas, from what I understand, scores for Lorimar productions are pretty much gone. This said, Sandy Courage donated a lot of Waltons scores to Eastman's Sibley Music Library. Whether Courage retained any of Jerry's sketches I don't know (but they may have his theme arrangement or something). Stuff for Columbia Pictures TV (Police Story scores, QBVII, etc.) I imagine is over at Sony Pictures. In JG's Archive of American Television interview it sounded like he did his own full scores for his TV things (bypassing the sketch stage altogether) at least through his "Revue" period ("Thriller" segments). Warner Bros. would probably have the music Jerry composed for TCF TV (VTBS, The Loner, and Bracken's World, etc.)
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks gang! I was just curious, this isn't for anything specific.
Lukas
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A question for the folks who know these things...
Jerry Goldsmith's motion picture sketches were donated to the AMPAS library:
https://collections.new.oscars.org/Details/Collection/661
Well first it should be noted that this collection doesn't have everything. You won't find Legend there, or Lonely Are the Brave (or any of his early Universal film scores for that matter, I'm fairly certain, even though they do have earlier film scores like Black Patch, which Intrada was able to get copied for their new recording). There are a decent number of feature film scores which are missing. But they also have some surprising things, like a substantial number of cues written for Babe, the Gallant Pig and Disney's The Kid, two scores which were never even recorded. They even have the written music for The General With the Cockeyed Id, an industrial documentary/promotional film from the mid-1960s.
However, where are the television sketches?
Thanks!
As far as I can tell, the ones that survive are scattered. I've confirmed UCLA has a lot of his work for CBS, including at least one of his radio scores ("The Prophecy of Bertha Abbott"), though alas I haven't been able to find the written music for his first masterpiece, "1489 Words" (conductor Leonard Slatkin asked me to find it because he's interested in conducting it, and I've been searching for it since before the pandemic!) If I was able to go and search their physical holdings in person, I might have more luck because it's possible some stuff just isn't catalogued at all. Pretty difficult to find things at UCLA when you're all the way in New Mexico, and it's times like these when I'm really sad I left LA.
But UCLA is where I've been able to locate at least four (and possibly five) of his General Electric Theater scores (interestingly no overlap with the later GE Theaters I've been able to find on video/audio...I wonder if ownership of the materials switched from CBS to Revue, somehow? Ownership of that show is somewhat confusing, to me, and it's the only one which seems to span Goldsmith's time at CBS in the late 50s to Revue through 1962.)
UCLA also has (at least) more than a half dozen of his written scores for Playhouse 90, some Studio One ("The Fair-Haired Boy" is the only one I know of for certain), all of his Twilight Zone scores, and quite a few other scattered random things like the 1959 anthology show Pursuit (not to be confused with the 1972 TV movie), unsold pilots like Man on the Beach and The Sergeant and the Lady (but I'm optimistic that recorded music also survives for these as they were done on film), his three scores for The Lineup, and even some Peck's Bad Girl I think. Alas, none of his Climax work as far as I can tell. I know some people who have delved into this material in person, like Bill Wrobel and Carson Cohen, and they likely know more.
Yavar
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I don't think Jerry kept his TV scores/sketches, though not everything he had in his possession was donated.
Many/most of his CBS scores are accessable at UCLA and NYPL. The NBC scores are in deep storage. I've seen some Man from UNCLE scores, so those exist. I haven't personally seen any General Electric scores, though I was told they are in storage with the NBC collection. I haven't found many deposits of his TV music in the copyright records, which isn't unusual. The scores likely exist, they just won't be easy to get hold of. At least not any time soon.
Neumation, a while back on Facebook you revealed that you found the written music for The Man, and shared the first page of the Main Title. Can you share what collection you uncovered that in?
And what library holdings have the NBC collection? If they're accessible they might have more of that later Goldsmith scores for GE Theater (the only ones in the CBS collection at UCLA are from 1959-1960, with the exception of the unsold "Mister Doc" pilot, which got folded into the series' final season in 1962 but was done much earlier), which could be very helpful for Leigh Phillips' current Kickstarter series to record Goldsmith's work from that show...
Yavar
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