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Interesting thoughts Scott. While I feel that this may be an easier debate in person, I’ll throw in some additional thoughts of my own.
TLJ took those characters and destroyed - for no real reason - those characters. No-one grew. And I didn’t care about any of them.
Oh it would be a fun discussion over a plate of food, absolutely.
See, I don't agree. Abrams set them up with TFA, Johnson took them further but since Abrams did so little with the new people, Johnson could take them pretty much where he wanted. He tried to do something good with Rey by making her unconnected to a particular bloodline. Just a nobody abandoned by her parents. The point was the ANYONE could be force sensitive. But she needed direction because she was too easily tempted by the dark side. Luke wasn't willing so she was open to Snoke and Ren's manipulation. By the end of the film, she embraced her uniqueness and took a step back from the dark side.
Finn embraced his place in the resistance (he was actually treated the worst in the trilogy).
Poe grew from hotshot, seat of your pants flyboy into a leader.
Ren emancipated himself from his "sponsor."
Luke realized he was human, realized he can't punish himself for one moment of weakness and accepted Ren was too far into Snoke's grip by the time he was training him.
That's a lot of arcs. They weren't all successful but balancing all of that with action, space battles and plot twists - as well as new characters while adhering to Kathleen Kennedy's edicts, it's surprising they let have as much of a free hand as they did. I think it turned out great. I mean, jeez, it's a Star Wars movie. We're not talking the upper echelons of cinema. In the grand scheme of the franchise, Star Wars and Empire were the exceptions, not the norm. Having said that, TLJ was just a travesty in a storytelling sense because it was lazy and cowardly. However, Ian McDiarmid was still great and watching what the dark side did to this once poised Senator and comparing the two is pretty creepy.
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The Last Jedi was awful  ( in my opinion ). Space Zooming Leia is one of the worst movie moments in recent history
I admit, I am not a fan of this sequence. I get that it was leading to Leia being a much larger part of the final story (or so I'd read), but really, once Carrie died (well before release) this would have been the perfect way to exit her character. But there may have been some further retooling to do. And fans woulda crapped their pants more than they already did.
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