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 Posted:   May 17, 2022 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

Finally!

https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/firestarter/products/tangerine-dream-firestarter-cd

Firestarter, based on a 1980 book by Stephen King and directed by Mark L. Lester, starred eight-year-old Drew Barrymore as Charly, a girl with pyrokinetic powers owing to her parents’ participation in a secret study of hallucinogenic drugs. When the agency behind the experiments comes for Charly to weaponize her powers, led by an assassin played by George C. Scott, she goes on the run with her father.

Firestarter came amidst the 1980s film-scoring heyday of German synth band Tangerine Dream, in their well-known lineup of Edgar Froese, Christopher Franke and Johannes Schmoelling. The band’s pulsating textures and ambient soundscape reinvented film scoring in films as varied as Thief, Risky Business, The Keep, Legend (U.S. version), Three O’Clock High, Near Dark and Miracle Mile, and have cast a long shadow on future styles.

The band considered Firestarter one of their most challenging scores, as they needed to provide not only suspense and pace for the paranormal chases and powers, but an emotional sensitivity to the child protagonist. New liner notes by Randall D. Larson explain how the band did not score to picture, but created “wild” cues to be used by the film’s music editors. Hence this 11 track program is the same as MCA Records’ 1984 soundtrack album, released by Varèse Sarabande on CD in 1990, and newly remastered for this long-awaited reissue.

Limited edition of 1,500 copies.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2022 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Ordered! This and Thief were my main records Spun in 1985. I have a soft spot for Firestarter by The Dream.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2022 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

No film versions of the "wild" tracks though. =(

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2022 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Mose Harper   (Member)

While Varese make no mention of it in their synopsis of the Stephen King set, when I ripped the Firestarter disc and got the metadata from Gracenote, it's officially labled as Firestarter [Remastered Edition].

So I'm assuming the remastering was done for initially for the SK set, and this is, finally, a new solo reissue of that material?

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I'll stick with my old CD.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I take it this is the same disc in that 'Stephen King Collection' a while back?

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I'll stick with my old CD.

I missed out on getting the CD when it was released (I had the original vinyl release from the 80s but it's long since expired).

Do you think Firestarter has a lot of PPG in it? Some of these synth tones aren't registering as DX7 or analog stuff. the PPG had a very specific sound

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   lars.blondeel   (Member)

I'll stick with my MCA copy.
Now, if only this included the film tracks........

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

I'll stick with my old CD.

Of all the TD film scores, this one was in most need of a remaster. The ridiculous analog hiss in the openings of Charley the Kid, Between Realities and Escaping Point are reason alone to upgrade. Maybe you haven't listened to it in so many years you forgot just how poorly it sounds big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   goozer   (Member)

My question is remastered from what source, exactly? Since they've already disclaimed that they aren't using the "wild cues", and it's almost certain that the original masters and those cues were lost in the Universal fire, is this taken from a pre-EQ'd safety master, or just a "laser drop" remaster from the 1990 original CD release?

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

and it's almost certain that the original masters and those cues were lost in the Universal fire

You know Johannes has copies hidden somewhere lol! Early Beginnings II!

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I'll stick with my old CD.

I missed out on getting the CD when it was released (I had the original vinyl release from the 80s but it's long since expired).

Do you think Firestarter has a lot of PPG in it? Some of these synth tones aren't registering as DX7 or analog stuff. the PPG had a very specific sound


No idea about the PPG.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I'll stick with my old CD.

Of all the TD film scores, this one was in most need of a remaster. The ridiculous analog hiss in the openings of Charley the Kid, Between Realities and Escaping Point are reason alone to upgrade. Maybe you haven't listened to it in so many years you forgot just how poorly it sounds big grin


I don't think it sounds bad.

I play it from time to time.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 9:21 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

So is this a carbon copy of the disc in the Stephen King Collection?

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2022 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

My question is remastered from what source, exactly? Since they've already disclaimed that they aren't using the "wild cues", and it's almost certain that the original masters and those cues were lost in the Universal fire, is this taken from a pre-EQ'd safety master, or just a "laser drop" remaster from the 1990 original CD release?

Probably sourced from protection dats.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2022 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

"Product expected to ship by street date, July 22nd, 2022"

That's two months away. I wonder why they announced so early?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   djintrepid   (Member)

I received this today, even though the website still lists July 22nd as the release date. I've had the version that was included in the Stephen King collection, but I sold it awhile back, retaining a digital copy of the score. The main selling point of this release is that it's a standalone CD and it's a new or recent remaster. I've compared this new release with the previous version from the SK collection and can honestly say that there is very little to no difference in sound between the two. I've flipped back and forth between all of the tracks of both releases listening for distinct differences, and whatever differences there may be they are extremely subtle. So if you already own the SK collection version there is no reason to buy this one, unless you really wanna have a standalone copy of it. For those who don't have this album and wanna buy it, do it. It's my personal favorite of Tangerine Dream's scores and the quality of sound is very good for it's age.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

"Product expected to ship by street date, July 22nd, 2022"

That's two months away. I wonder why they announced so early?


For whatever reason, it's early. Got my shipping notice a few days ago and it'll be here Friday

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

I received this today, even though the website still lists July 22nd as the release date. I've had the version that was included in the Stephen King collection, but I sold it awhile back, retaining a digital copy of the score. The main selling point of this release is that it's a standalone CD and it's a new or recent remaster. I've compared this new release with the previous version from the SK collection and can honestly say that there is very little to no difference in sound between the two. I've flipped back and forth between all of the tracks of both releases listening for distinct differences, and whatever differences there may be they are extremely subtle. So if you already own the SK collection version there is no reason to buy this one, unless you really wanna have a standalone copy of it. For those who don't have this album and wanna buy it, do it. It's my personal favorite of Tangerine Dream's scores and the quality of sound is very good for it's age.

Without new elements I was pretty sure this was going to be the case. I waited for a standalone release since I was uninterested in the other scores in the box set. BSX is releasing a remaster of THE PARK IS MINE in July and I'm just as excited to hear the improvement as this is also another of TD's albums that needed a serious overhaul. In fact, if my old Super Collector days memory serves, Edgar wasn't very pleased with it's initial release. There was this guy once, you see this scar...

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

I received this today, even though the website still lists July 22nd as the release date. I've had the version that was included in the Stephen King collection, but I sold it awhile back, retaining a digital copy of the score. The main selling point of this release is that it's a standalone CD and it's a new or recent remaster. I've compared this new release with the previous version from the SK collection and can honestly say that there is very little to no difference in sound between the two. I've flipped back and forth between all of the tracks of both releases listening for distinct differences, and whatever differences there may be they are extremely subtle. So if you already own the SK collection version there is no reason to buy this one, unless you really wanna have a standalone copy of it. For those who don't have this album and wanna buy it, do it. It's my personal favorite of Tangerine Dream's scores and the quality of sound is very good for it's age.

Thank you!!

 
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