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Dec 10, 2022 - 1:50 PM
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IanB
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I was 24 - the First Blood sessions were at Abbey Road Studio 1 in the late summer of 1982. Second tpt was Simon Ferguson - freelance player who worked with many orchestras, groups, sessions, including The Academy of St Martins and Philip Jones Brass; third tpt was John Hardy - Principal Cornet and my colleague at the ROH Orchestra
Thank-you Ian for that clarification. I recalled reading it was Maurice Murphy, so either the source I read was in error, or I remembered wrong. 
As long as you're here, can you shed any light on the trumpet overdub for the cue when Rambo breaks out of the police station? It is heard in the film but not on any of the album releases.
https://youtu.be/VZqVJVR9IBc?t=129
https://youtu.be/YqsQ4k28hmU?t=123
Oh, and gorgeous solo work on that score!
Thanks for the compliment. Re the clips - the first sounds, for example, like more than one player on the trumpet theme, the second (from the CD) has a lower trumpet octave not heard in the first clip. Having listened again to the film and CD it also appears that the full length versions of each clip also have different beginnings, timings, endings. We didn't over dub, so they sound to me like just different takes. Arthur Morton might re-write the orchestration occasionally and those changes were (re-)recorded in full. Not every cue recorded was used in the final cut of the film (possibly used instead for the CD?). The instrumental track "It's a Long Road", for example, doesn't appear in the film - unfortunately. Stuff got recorded, re-arranged, re-recorded, not used, and/or recorded "for the album" - I think pretty standard practice.
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Oh, and gorgeous solo work on that score!
Thanks for the compliment. Re the clips - the first sounds, for example, like more than one player on the trumpet theme, the second (from the CD) has a lower trumpet octave not heard in the first clip.
Couldn't it be that the film clip stems from a European PAL source, which is speed up to 25 seconds and therefore the music obviously comes with a higher pitch?
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Couldn't it be that the film clip stems from a European PAL source, which is speed up to 25 seconds and therefore the music obviously comes with a higher pitch?
When you check the Youtube channel data featuring the jail escape film clip Paul McLean used as reference, you see that this channel is from Canada, so from an NTSC zone, not a PAL zone.
Anyway, Neil S Bulk told us that there was indeed a 13 sec part of The Razor that has been changed in favor of an alternate take for the 1983 album.
Indeed. I was just taking it into consideration, since that is sometimes responsible for changes in pitch. Neil now explained it.
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Terry and Nick, it's Neil NOT Neal.
Jaymes
Ok, no problem, corrected.
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