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 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Posting only to say that there are several film music items that might be of interest to folks here. Signed Bernard Herrmann book, several OOP soundtrack CDs, and, as always, the great 10-CD perk we always do with free postage.

And here we go! Read all about the campaign, grab a fabulous perk - a lot of rare stuff including OOP CDs, signed books, window cards, photo shoots, vocal scores, first edition musicals, be an executive producer, an associate producer, be thanked in CD booklets, photos - something for everyone! The first two to three days of any Indiegogo campaign are the most important as it sets the tone for the campaign, so please grab perks early so we come out of the gate as strongly as possible. Please share with every person you've ever met. We can DO this! ??

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-kritzerland-campaign?fbclid=IwAR0rE22gMgjKwp-OFbDIcsShS82Wa51MULClHoXFsuaglWeh6vXDcD9pJ_4#/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Molly Maguires sold. Adding a few more OOP things shortly, including the super rare 2-CD How to Murder Your Wife.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I don't see a tier for future releases as in the earlier fundraiser, just the 10-CD tier for current in-print titles. Was it too complicated to keep track?

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I don't see a tier for future releases as in the earlier fundraiser, just the 10-CD tier for current in-print titles.



For film soundtracks at Kritzerland's present rate of output, I'd guess it might take 18.7 years to get 10 future releases.

Surprised to see this running the same time as Intrada's money-raising campaign.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I think Bruce is largely running this for his musicals crowd; hence his tone above with "I'm only posting this here for..."

Intrada seemed to wait for Leigh Phillips's Goldsmith Kickstarter to finish before launching their own Herrmann one, and I know Leigh is intentionally waiting for the Herrmann Kickstarter to finish before he does his second Goldsmith-on-GE-Theater mini-Kickstarter round.

There are easily 10 existing Kritzerland titles I want for $10 apiece, so if I can gather the funds before this Indiegogo ends I'll definitely take advantage of that amazing deal!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I don't see a tier for future releases as in the earlier fundraiser, just the 10-CD tier for current in-print titles. Was it too complicated to keep track?

Yes, it was madness.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Aside from the $10 No Perk Perk tier, how about a "I gave $100 to Kritzerland and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" t-shirt tier?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I don't see a tier for future releases as in the earlier fundraiser, just the 10-CD tier for current in-print titles.



For film soundtracks at Kritzerland's present rate of output, I'd guess it might take 18.7 years to get 10 future releases.

Surprised to see this running the same time as Intrada's money-raising campaign.


This has been in the works for months. And since, as has been pointed out by Yavar, this is mostly for our musicals people, I saw no reason to change our target date. I ONLY posted here because I knew some of the perks would be of interest here - signed Herrmann, signed Alex North, some OOP soundtracks, etc.

What's amusing to me most is how crowd-funding campaigns has now entered the glut phase in terms of here - so, as in days of old when every label was glutting the market and some of us were warning what the result would be (and boy were we right), now fund raisers have to stay out of the way of other fund raisers. There'll be more. We were going to do a huge, original film music recording - all details worked out and we know it's something most would want - but we haven't done that yet for the very reasons you're seeing. The fear would be we'd launch when someone else would launch. We were going to do this last year, but I kept hearing rumors and so would not do it. I didn't even want to be close to any other campaign. And so, I keep pushing that one and will continue to push until I know for certain that we have a window that will work. No one I know has so much discretionary cash to keep contributing when there are multiple campaigns.

Again, the one we're doing now is specifically for our theater folks, although if we reach our goal it will enable us to do several soundtrack releases we've been sitting on. So, lucky you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Aside from the $10 No Perk Perk tier, how about a "I gave $100 to Kritzerland and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" t-shirt tier?

How about not making silly posts. I don't HAVE to post here, you know. I'll mention now and then bow out of further postings - in addition to Molly Maguires (sold) and How To Murder Your Wife, I'll also be putting up OOP CDs for Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing, Rains of Ranchipur, Two for the Road, The Children's Hour, The Strange Love of Martha Ivers, The World of Suzie Wong and perhaps one or two others - all sealed and new. So, check the campaign - I'll be putting these up as other things get grabbed. Or, you can PM or email me and tell me which you're interested in and then I can let you know when that title is up.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Sorry you took it the wrong way. $10 isn't much of a donation these days, so I was thinking there should be a higher donation tier like $100 with some swag other than current CDs (which I've bought already). Btw, there's nothing wrong with silly posts. Lighten up, my friend, we're trying to help. I'd easily pay $100 for "God told me to" from the HainesVIPClub.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

What's amusing to me most is how crowd-funding campaigns has now entered the glut phase in terms of here - so, as in days of old when every label was glutting the market and some of us were warning what the result would be (and boy were we right), now fund raisers have to stay out of the way of other fund raisers. There'll be more. We were going to do a huge, original film music recording - all details worked out and we know it's something most would want - but we haven't done that yet for the very reasons you're seeing. The fear would be we'd launch when someone else would launch. We were going to do this last year, but I kept hearing rumors and so would not do it. I didn't even want to be close to any other campaign. And so, I keep pushing that one and will continue to push until I know for certain that we have a window that will work. No one I know has so much discretionary cash to keep contributing when there are multiple campaigns.

I'm not sure I agree with all this, even though times are indeed hard for many. I wouldn't say we're at a "glut phase" of film music crowd-funding at this point. James Fitzpatrick did his Tadlow King of Kings Kickstarter in late 2017/early 2018. Intrada did Tiomkin's Dial M for Murder later in 2018, and then Goldsmith's Black Patch/The Man in 2021. Now they are currently running their third Kickstarter (Herrmann) in 2022. That's it!

To me this is something to celebrate: crowdfunding has proven to be successful for new recordings of classic film music, so it's starting to happen a *little* faster. But it's not as if a bunch of campaigns are going simultaneously.

The new ones Leigh Phillips is doing for small-scale Goldsmith TV scores are rather a different beast, since the base tier was only £3 a score. Yes, he's waiting until Intrada finishes their Herrmann one (£30 base tier) before doing his second round, but that £3-6 isn't going to break anyone's bank account! After all people regularly bundle their CD purchases and spend at least $80-100 at a time to save on shipping, don't they? If they can do that, I don't see why they couldn't give $30 each to two different film music crowdfunding campaigns...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The crucial difference is those kickstarters are offering a specific future release so they appeal to the communal "barn raising" feeling among fans.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Right. And the earlier (larger) Kritzerland Indiegogo campaign was a part of that too, even though he wasn’t raising for a specific new recording/release.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

But back then, he promised several soundtrack releases. This seems more like keeping the lights on like donating to public radio, hence my t-shirt jest...maybe I should have suggested a Kritzerland totebag. wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well the copy for this new campaign does mention, "We have a lot of stuff backlogged right now and in order to do all these wonderful titles, which include a new series of show releases, some truly obscure soundtrack releases, and some more great classical releases, we need your help."

Not as ambitious as what he said in his last campaign about getting into new studios and such, but still promising.

I know it's been a while since Bruce's Fox relationship apparently ended with the spectacular Alfred Newman/Henry King 5 CD set, but Alfred the Great and The Twentieth Century were both cool titles by more obscure film composers. More like that would be wonderful!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Yes, which makes the point this isn't soundtrack specific like the previous indiegogo, so it's not going to generate the same response here. Several of the $100 cd tiers are sold, which is encouraging, but will it increase the frequency of soundtrack releases or just more show releases?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Well the copy for this new campaign does mention, "We have a lot of stuff backlogged right now and in order to do all these wonderful titles, which include a new series of show releases, some truly obscure soundtrack releases, and some more great classical releases, we need your help."

Not as ambitious as what he said in his last campaign about getting into new studios and such, but still promising.

I know it's been a while since Bruce's Fox relationship apparently ended with the spectacular Alfred Newman/Henry King 5 CD set, but Alfred the Great and The Twentieth Century were both cool titles by more obscure film composers. More like that would be wonderful!

Yavar


I am sitting on some really interesting tapes, just waiting to transfer them. Some surprising composers, too, in terms of weirdness. And there'll be more from that source.

But to comment on Last Child's comment - we never just ask people to donate for donating's sake. We have amazing perks and I value them way under market price, too. The Herrmann signed item is fantastic - signed Herrmann just doesn't come up very often at all. The last one I offered was snapped up and I suspect this one will be, as well. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Yes, which makes the point this isn't soundtrack specific like the previous indiegogo, so it's not going to generate the same response here. Several of the $100 cd tiers are sold, which is encouraging, but will it increase the frequency of soundtrack releases or just more show releases?

Watch the video or read the copy on the Indiegogo site. We specifically say that it includes some soundtrack stuff I've been sitting on. But this one's mostly for the show fans and that includes fans of our monthly cabaret shows, fans like Marshall Harvey and Henry Stanny, who've come to most of 'em for the past twelve YEARS.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Yes, which makes the point this isn't soundtrack specific like the previous indiegogo, so it's not going to generate the same response here. Several of the $100 cd tiers are sold, which is encouraging, but will it increase the frequency of soundtrack releases or just more show releases?

Watch the video or read the copy on the Indiegogo site. We specifically say that it includes some soundtrack stuff I've been sitting on. But this one's mostly for the show fans and that includes fans of our monthly cabaret shows, fans like Marshall Harvey and Henry Stanny, who've come to most of 'em for the past twelve YEARS.


Right, this isn't soundtrack-specific like your previous indiegogo, meaning limited to, focused or dedicated to just soundtracks. So you probably won't get the same outpouring of soundtrack fan support. I recall the countdown you had near the end, and everyone all excited about prospective new releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Yes, which makes the point this isn't soundtrack specific like the previous indiegogo, so it's not going to generate the same response here. Several of the $100 cd tiers are sold, which is encouraging, but will it increase the frequency of soundtrack releases or just more show releases?

Watch the video or read the copy on the Indiegogo site. We specifically say that it includes some soundtrack stuff I've been sitting on. But this one's mostly for the show fans and that includes fans of our monthly cabaret shows, fans like Marshall Harvey and Henry Stanny, who've come to most of 'em for the past twelve YEARS.


Right, this isn't soundtrack-specific like your previous indiegogo, meaning limited to, focused or dedicated to just soundtracks. So you probably won't get the same outpouring of soundtrack fan support. I recall the countdown you had near the end, and everyone all excited about prospective new releases.


Yes, the last one, seven years ago, was extraordinary - I think we cleared 68K and boy did it enable us to do a whole slew of expensive soundtrack projects from any number of places. It was great. This one's completely different, which is why I worded my initial post as I did.

BTW, the signed Herrmann book is taken. Going to a wonderful chap and film music person.

 
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