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I don't understand the criteria for the honorary Oscars. I know North, Schifrin, and Morricone got them, all three deserving, and none of them had an actual score Oscar--at the time. Of course, Morricone got one after. So, if the lack of an Oscar win is part of the criteria, I'd wait on Newman. He may still win one.
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We all need to quit caring about the Oscars.
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And by the way.. Thomas Newman should of won for what score?
Randy Newman won on his 16th nomination I think, but he was 8 years younger than Thomas is now when he won.
I count at least six wins for Thomas Newman, probably even a few more than that if I looked up his filmography:
Less Than Zero - 1987
Flesh and Bone or Josh and S.A.M. (either of them would have been a worthy winner) - 1993
Oscar and Lucinda - 1997
American Beauty - 1999
The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel - 2011
1917 - 2019
Regarding the year 1994 and The Shawshank Redemption and Little Women. I actually prefer Elliot Goldenthal's work from that year, but Newman is definitely a serious contender.
If I had to pick only one of these, it would have to be American Beauty, a landmark score in film music history.
Lol, picking "Flesh and Bone" and "Josh and S.A.M." over "Schindler's List" or "Oscar and Lucinda" over "Titanic".
Newman is one of my favorite composers and I would love for him to win an Oscar but with the exception of 2019 and perhaps 1999 his nominated scores just weren't the best of the nominated ones
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Jun 21, 2022 - 11:28 PM
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I'm not a fan of the Schindler's List score at all. John Williams ruined that film. He turned real human drama into maudlin, almost comical melodrama. The obnoxious choral moments are the worst.
And I agree with Leonard Rosenman that Titanic was a dreadful score.
So for me it is no contest at all. Schindler's List and Titanic are horrible scores in my book that didn't help their respective films (neither am I attracted to the music on its own at all), unlike Flesh and Bone, Josh and S.A.M. and Oscar and Lucinda, which were all far more supportive, innovative, individualistic, and almost magically evocative at their best. I still revisit all those three Newman scores sometimes, but it would never even occur for me to listen to Titanic and Schindler's List, both of which I outright dislike.
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I'm not a fan of the Schindler's List score at all. John Williams ruined that film. He turned real human drama into maudlin, almost comical melodrama. The obnoxious choral moments are the worst.
Hyperbolic much?
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SCHINDLER'S LIST was very deserving of the best score Academy Award. John Williams scored a very difficult movie with great taste, contemplation, restraint, and - most important - genuine emotion, in a straightforward, simple manner. Definitely the movie and film score of that year. The 1997 Academy Award for best score should have gone to KUNDUN.
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Jun 22, 2022 - 1:35 PM
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We all need to quit caring about the Oscars.
THIS 1000%!... the score category particularly, is an absolute joke!
Personally, I agree with both of you. I would hope that most of the followers of this board would understand that Academy rules and procedures often do a poor job of selecting five deserving nominations, let alone awarding the very best score of the year (as defined, perhaps, by those most passionate about film scores - and even then there would be a great diversity of opinion).
Even so, I don't begrudge the speculation, odds, drama, etc. that others seem to enjoy when it comes to these awards. I pretty much lump the Academy Awards in with things like following the royal family, or obsessing about baseball, where men in their pajamas get paid millions for swinging a piece of wood to hit a ball as far as they can.
If these things can distract people from life's challenges and entertain them in some way, then that's fine with me.
Back to the subject: I think Newman is a fine composer, but I'm not sure an honorary Oscar is the way to go. First, he doesn't need the Academy to validate him and his accomplishments. Second, he has time to write another great score that just happens to catch the Academy's fancy.
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