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Ok. Pure opinion here, no more.
I would be very surprised if Schumacher didn't simply bring his own choice of composer. Simple as.
Thought I heard that Goldman only agreed to do Forever as long as he didn't have to use the previous composer's theme.
Shame. Because Bond and Potter at least has the motif. Gives the franchise continuity. But that's just my opinion.
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Has it ever been known why Danny elman didn't score Batman Forever?
Did he leave in solidarity with Burton?
Did WB not want him for the next film?
Did Schumacher ask Elfman and he turned him down?
Did Schumacher just ask Goldenthal while they were working on The Client?
Thanks for anyone that has insight on this
Did Goldenthal work on The Client??
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I think he meant A Time To Kill… but that film came out the year after Batman Whenever.
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I thought Goldenthal did the score for the client as well as time to kill, but it looks like it was howard shore. So I wonder how Goldenthal was chosen as a replacement, maybe Elfman referred him after declining a return?
Let's clear this up because Movie dude you're way off.
What happend between Burton and Elfman was that Elfman got ticked off at Burton because his score was buried for the most part under all of the special effects as well as sound effects work during post production of the film and at that point Elfman considered Batman Returns his biggest score to date with what he felt was great thematic work and was probably way too close to personally. Burton also felt he wrote too much music for it at a whopping 95 Minutes which was 20 minutes longer than the original Batman score three years earlier. This pretty much cost Elfman working on Ed Wood in 1994 which Howard Shore scored in Elfman's absence and finally mended fences to work again on Mars Attacks! and been together ever since. Also, keep in mind, Elfman worked on A Nightmare Before Christmas in which I'm sure Burton kept his distance from Elfman who mostly worked with Director Henry Selick on that film and Burton was the producer on in 1993.
When Batman Forever (which was under another title at that point) was offered to both Michael Keaton and Tim Burton to return along with Marlon Wayans (Yes, of the Wayans Bros.) to play Robin. Warner was pretty much dictated by McDonald's who had a major influence on what the tone of Batman 3 was going to be because of the first two films overly dark tone. They had missed out on capitalizing on the first two films and wanted to really capitalize on the third one. This is the reason why Keaton walked because had read the script which he hated and thought it was too cartoony and campy from what had been established psychologically with the first two movies for Bruce Wayne. Burton also walked because he didn't do it at all from what I remember and just stayed to produce it in case of anything. So the film was given to Joel Schumacher after his success with The Client which was his adaptation of John Grisham's novel which made 100 million plus at the box office. Once Schumacher was hired, the tone of Batman changed completely so Wayans was paid off not to play Robin and a new cast was put together. I don't think Howard Shore was approached to score Batman Forever. I'm sure Schumacher considered it and thought about it but I definitely know that he wanted a new sound that wasn't like Elfman's and went for Elliot Goldenthal. I'm sure there was some input given to Schumacher based on both his scores for Demolition Man and Cobb, but primarily the former by the studio and wasn't forced on him as composer. I would say Shore scoring Batman Forever would've been really interesting but I don't think it would've had the same impact as Goldenthal's music did for it. I think he would've written a fun score for sure if he had.
Another reason why Elfman wouldn't have done Batman Forever is because he wanted to do more serious scores. After Batman Returns, Sommersby was the real breakout score that showed everyone in Hollywood that he could write serious music and not just writing comic book scores or comedies which many thought that was all he could do and it became one of his more popular scores with the main theme becoming the Regency Pictures logo in 1993 and would lead to great works like Dolores Claiborne and Dead Presidents in 1995 and everything he did in 1996 with Mission Impossible, Extreme Measures (a brilliant underrated score), The Frighteners and Mars Attacks! Then in 1997 would get Oscar nominations for both Men In Black (which should've won) and Good Will Hunting. So not doing Batman Forever wasn't a bad thing for him and in fact, it might have helped him break out and write the great scores he did after Batman Returns.
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Veronica Mars....will you marry me? ??
Ohhhh...la-la-la!
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Let's clear this What happend between Burton and Elfman was that Elfman got ticked off at Burton because his score was buried for the most part under all of the special effects as well as sound effects work during post production of the film and at that point Elfman considered Batman Returns his biggest score to date with what he felt was great thematic work and was probably way too close to personally. Burton also felt he wrote too much music for it at a whopping 95 Minutes which was 20 minutes longer than the original Batman score three years earlier. This pretty much cost Elfman working on Ed Wood in 1994 which Howard Shore scored in Elfman's absence and finally mended fences to work again on Mars Attacks! and been together ever since. Also, keep in mind, Elfman worked on A Nightmare Before Christmas in which I'm sure Burton kept his distance from Elfman who mostly worked with Director Henry Selick on that film and Burton was the producer on in 1993.
So much is wrong here.
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Sources!
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Let's clear this What happend between Burton and Elfman was that Elfman got ticked off at Burton because his score was buried for the most part under all of the special effects as well as sound effects work during post production of the film and at that point Elfman considered Batman Returns his biggest score to date with what he felt was great thematic work and was probably way too close to personally. Burton also felt he wrote too much music for it at a whopping 95 Minutes which was 20 minutes longer than the original Batman score three years earlier. This pretty much cost Elfman working on Ed Wood in 1994 which Howard Shore scored in Elfman's absence and finally mended fences to work again on Mars Attacks! and been together ever since. Also, keep in mind, Elfman worked on A Nightmare Before Christmas in which I'm sure Burton kept his distance from Elfman who mostly worked with Director Henry Selick on that film and Burton was the producer on in 1993.
So much is wrong here.
Yeah, it seems the poster is mixing up several stories here. Burton and Elfman did indeed have a falling out in the early 90's and that's why Shore scored Ed Wood and was also in talks for Mars Attacks! IIRC. But the falling out wasn't over Batman Returns but over TNBC. Elfman has discussed this many times in the past. And in an interview last year Elfman mentioned that he was disappointed with the mix on the first Batman.
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