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 Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 5:34 PM   
 By:   rdj252   (Member)

I love pirate movies. My dad raised me on old movies and he enjoyed seeing films with buccaneers like Errol Flynn and Tyrone Power rule the seven seas. Since they were little I do pirate day with my kids. We watch pirate movies during the week and on pirate day we go searching for buried treasure; I take an old wooden box my dad had made for my daughter and bury it somewhere in the back yard. I make a pirate map, hide clues with compass directions and hints to certain points and use my wife’s Halloween decorations (skeletons) to point the way just like in Robert Louis Stevenson’s Treasure Island. The treasure always consists of their favorite candy, a movie and baseball cards. We dress up, they sword fight me for the map and then the hunt begins. This might be the last one (my son is 13 now and my daughter who is 11 seems to be just humoring me), and it got me thinking about great scores for pirate films. My personal favorites are Cutthroat Island (terrific score horrible film), Captain Blood, The Sea Hawk and Treasure Island by the Chieftans (my favorite pirate movie albeit a TV film from 1990 with the great Charlton Heston as Long John). Besides the Pirate of the Caribbean films (3rd movie’s score is my favorite of those), what scores do you like?

 Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

I like the scores you mentioned. In addition I would suggest ANNE OF THE INDES by Waxman. Perhaps THE GOONIES or at least the parts of Steiner quoted in the score.

 Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Definitely like The Sea Hawk and The Black Swan, the latter having a particularly catchy main theme (I really need to give Captain Blood a really thorough listen). The first Pirates of the Caribbean score was pretty good, but I didn’t really notice the score in the second film (which really could have used some judicious trimming) and never really watched the other films in the series. I also wish Intrada would put out Clifton Parker’s score for Disney’s live-action version of “Treasure Island,” if any of it survives.

Edit: Anne of the Indies is another good one as EdG mentioned, which I plan on relistening to tomorrow.

 Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

  • Pirates - Philippe Sarde - 1986
  • Swashbuckler - John Addison - 1976
  • The Light at the Edge of the World - Piero Piccioni - 1971
  • The Boy and the Pirates - Albert Glasser - 1960
  • The Buccaneer - Elmer Bernstein - 1958
  • The Master of Ballantrae - William Alwyn - 1953
  • The Crimson Pirate - William Alwyn - 1952

     Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 6:47 PM   
     By:   ibelin   (Member)

    Does 'The Ice Pirates' count? big grin

    I am having a hard time thinking of pirate film scores not already mentioned. John Williams's 'Hook' is probably the best one I can think of. There are also films that involve pirates and have a pirate-like aesthetic. 'The Princess Bride' and 'The Goonies' come to mind.

     Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 6:54 PM   
     By:   Mike Petersen   (Member)

    THE SEA HAWK, and CAPTAIN BLOOD - Korngold

     Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 11:03 PM   
     By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

    Long John Silver (1954) - Music by David Buttolph. The album was released by RCA Victor, a 10" LP.

    "Yo - Ho - Ho And a Bottle of Rum!"

     Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 11:53 PM   
     By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

    All of them, I'd say.

     Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 11:58 PM   
     By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

    All of them, I'd say.

    Fortunately I can narrow down my choice to one - John Addison’s Swashbuckler.

    Although I have a nostalgic pull towards Cap’n Pugwash.

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 1:02 AM   
     By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

    All of them, I'd say.

    Fortunately I can narrow down my choice to one - John Addison’s Swashbuckler.

    Although I have a nostalgic pull towards Cap’n Pugwash.

    I see what you did there. big grin

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 1:04 AM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Like with you, Pirates of the Caribbean 3 is an amazing score and my absolute favorite Pirates score.
    I also really like the score for Pirates 2 and Pirates 4 (well the 30 minutes that was released anyway...).
    The "Davy Jones" theme and the love theme for Will and Elizabeth are some of Zimmer's finest theme creations!

    The first Pirates movie never really stuck with me. Of course I like the "He's a Pirate" theme which is always fun when it appears and the first love/emotional theme was nice, but I never really listen to the OST. But I think it has more to do about how the score is presented. It was a really bad release, imo!

    As for other pirate movies...not really familiar with others. I only watched the Caribbean movies because of Zimmer, lol!
    But I've heard good things about that John Williams HOOK score. I sampled it on LLLs web page but couldnt really get into it.

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 2:09 AM   
     By:   moolik   (Member)

    Top of my list:
    CUTTTHROAT ISLAND John Debney (Fantastic MainTitle)
    THE CRIMSON PIRATE William Alwyn (Great suite..needs a full recording)
    PIRATES Phillippe Sarde ( Very colorful and fun listening.Among my favorites by Sarde)
    THE SEAHAWK Erich W.Korngold ( Classic)
    DON JUAN ( Even not a Pirate has the best swashbuckler theme) Max Steiner
    SWASHBUCKLER John Addison ( Great themes and joyful)
    MUPPETS TREASURE ISLAND Hans Zimmer (The Best of the Carabean musicsmile)
    TREASURE ISLAND The Adventure begins Christopher L.Stone
    If HOOK counts..its just beautiful

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 2:11 AM   
     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

    Crowbarred in with temeritous cheek, The island, morricone lol

    And wasnt there a scarlet something or other?

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 2:54 AM   
     By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

    Crowbarred in with temeritous cheek, The island, morricone lol

    And wasnt there a scarlet something or other?

    Ring any bells smile

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 6:35 AM   
     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

    I think the pirate one mustve been Scarlet Ring Any Bells wink
    Its obvious.
    Final answer.

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 6:41 AM   
     By:   Ado   (Member)

    Sea Hawk by Korngold is pretty outstanding.
    I need to listen to it now.

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 6:46 AM   
     By:   Solium   (Member)

    Other than what was already mentioned...

    The Pirate Fairy- Joel McNeely
    The Pagemaster- James Horner (Not a pirate movie but has pirate music)
    Casper- James Horner (Again not a pirate movie but has pirate music)

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 8:37 AM   
     By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)

    Nicholas Dodd: Treasured Island

    John DuPrez: The Crimson Permanent Assurance
    - this is 5 min. suite on a Silva Screen compilation called "The Crimson Pirate". A piratical compilation.
    - this was the short preceeding "Monty Python's Meaning of Life" with office buildings replacing ships.

    Trevor Jones: Nate and Hayes (aka Savage Islands)

    Theodore Shapiro: Pirates - The Band of Misfits

    There were a couple of Hammer films whose titles escape me at the moment. "Pirates of Blood River" was one, (comp. Gary Hughes). But as I recall there was not a great deal of swash-and-buckle. Lots of sneaking around music.
    They had gone up river to elude the Royal Navy and look for supplies. It was a pirate movie, not on the high seas but on the regular Hammer locations.

    Some of the versions of C.S. Lewis' "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" (David Arnold, Geoffrey Burgon - not so much in the Burgon version) , feature some Korngoldesque moments whenever the Errol Flynn mouse leaps into action.

     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 8:49 AM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    The Crimson Pirate has already been mentioned of course, but I'll also put in a good word for Alwyn's The Swiss Family Robinson, which has some piratey sounding music (like that great main title)... though it doesn't necessarily accompany the pirates in the movie!

    Also, Clifton Parker's Damn the Defiant (released on CD by FSM) deserves a mention even though it's more of just a seafaring thing than a pirate thing. But IMO it's not at all far removed from Parker's score to Disney's Treasure Island (which I think someone already mentioned above). Check this out:!%20Main%20Title.mp3

    That's the good stuff, IMO!

    My favorite two though are probably Korngold's The Sea Hawk and Debney's CutThroat Island. I can listen to both repeatedly in complete 2CD form, and never tire of them...


     Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 10:11 AM   
     By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

    Pretty much what many have said - but my first fond memory of pirate music is Swashbuckler, among first 10 or so soundtracks I owned as a teenager.

    I love the very different approach in the main title of Swashbuckler, focusing more on the Caribbean milieu and rolling waves. And it's a crackerjack album, even when it starts very closely pastiching Classical music (Schubert's Unfinished Symphony for one).

    Korngold's Sea Hawk is one of my two favorites of his, along with Robin Hood. Grateful for the complete and longer versions, but I just adore the Utah Symphony version from the 80's.

    I too wish for a fuller treatment of Parker's Treasure Island, and like Yavar think of Damn the Defiant along similar lines. But I'm grateful for the suite. I want all Parker's music for those Disney 50's flicks, especially the Robin Hood one.

    And I enjoy Zimmer and Co's first three Pirates scores. I love Jack's theme and the wonderful song that opens 3. Was a bit disappointed by the fourth though I love Rodrigo y Gabriela both for their own music and in this milieu. Don't think I've even listened to the latest film's score.

    I loathe the 90's extravagance of Cutthroat Island so much I've never given the score much of a chance. But not too long ago I listened to a good bit of the LLL version and found myself enjoying it more. It's just a little too much on overdrive, and to me, pirates do NOT need a choir. Unless they're singing the hilarious song in Sea Hawk.

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