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 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I know John Williams helped put them back on the map, in the late 70s, with his acclaimed and top-selling soundtrack to STAR WARS (and many more high-profile blockbusters between them would follow), but which film composer has recorded their scores with this esteemed orchestra the most.
My guess (which is probably wrong) is Philippe Sarde, who seems to have used them countless times over the years for his scores.
Alex Desplat has used them a lot too, but that's only in more recent times.
Anyone know for sure?

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I think the London Symphony Orchestra has been among the foremost orchestras in the world long before John Williams recorded STAR WARS, and it had (and still has) a superb reputation among classical music lovers, but it's true that STAR WARS put it back on the map as the go to classical orchestra for big Hollywood spectacles.

I have not double count the gigs, but Philippe Sarde seems to have indeed recorded a lot with them, 17 scores altogether, and John Williams 14. Wikipedia has this list to offer:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Symphony_Orchestra_filmography

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Cool list (although it does include re-recordings, like BRAINSTORM & RIO CONCHOS, which aren't the actual/original film scores proper).
James Horner has about 16 credits and Desplat is the winner, with over 20 collaborations.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Cool list (although it does include re-recordings, like BRAINSTORM & RIO CONCHOS, which aren't the actual/original film scores proper).

Actually, they are. They are the actual original/film scores proper. They are just not the original film recordings of these scores.

Williams also re-recorded THE FURY with the LSO, the actual film recording was done in L.A.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I wasn't saying they weren't the proper scores (or didn't mean to), just that they weren't the actual recordings used in the film, but recorded at a later date (MUCH LATER in terms of RIO CONCHOS) for available release purposes.

I knew what I meant Nic wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I wasn't saying they weren't the proper scores (or didn't mean to)

Yeah, but you were literally saying they weren't the proper scores (Quote: "like BRAINSTORM & RIO CONCHOS, which aren't the actual/original film scores proper"). :-)

just that they weren't the actual recordings used in the film, but recorded at a later date (MUCH LATER in terms of RIO CONCHOS).

I knew what I meant Nic wink


I thought that's what you meant, which is why I just wanted to align it with what you said. :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I have not double count the gigs, but Philippe Sarde seems to have indeed recorded a lot with them, 17 scores altogether, and John Williams 14. Wikipedia has this list to offer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Symphony_Orchestra_filmography


Actually, there are several Sarde scores missing in this list which were also performed by the LSO.
Here are some which come to mind:
- BAROCCO (1976)
- MORT D´UN POURRI (1977)
- LA GUERRE DU FEU (1981)
- STELLA (1983)
- J ´AI ÉPOUSÉ UNE OMBRE (1983)
- HAREM (1985)
- RENDEZ- VOUS (1985)
- DIS-MOI OUI (1995)
- ALICE ET MARTIN (1998)
- ENTRE CHIENS ET LOUPS (2002)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Which would make it a two-way battle between the French Dudes.
Both having recorded with the LSO 20 + times.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Undecided Zebra   (Member)

I know John Williams helped put them back on the map, in the late 70s, with his acclaimed and top-selling soundtrack to STAR WARS (and many more high-profile blockbusters between them would follow), but which film composer has recorded their scores with this esteemed orchestra the most.
My guess (which is probably wrong) is Philippe Sarde, who seems to have used them countless times over the years for his scores.
Alex Desplat has used them a lot too, but that's only in more recent times.
Anyone know for sure?


Also as a minor point around time of Supergirl recording approx 70% of The National Philharmonic Orchestra was made up of LSO and former Players.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



Also as a minor point around time of Supergirl recording approx 70% of The National Philharmonic Orchestra was made up of LSO and former Players.


Yes, the National Philharmonic Orchestra had lots of players from the top orchestras of London, including very prominently the London Symphony Orchestra. (Just as the Sinfonia of London.)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Yes, the National Philharmonic Orchestra had lots of players from the top orchestras of London, including very prominently the London Symphony Orchestra. (Just as the Sinfonia of London.)

Only the best for LINK! ;-)

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Undecided Zebra   (Member)

Which would make it a two-way battle between the French Dudes.
Both having recorded with the LSO 20 + times.


No we need to reframe this so French don't win, as we established The National Philharmonic was mostly L.S.O players so therefore Goldsmith wins with over 26 scores . Order has been maintained.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)



Also as a minor point around time of Supergirl recording approx 70% of The National Philharmonic Orchestra was made up of LSO and former Players.


Yes, the National Philharmonic Orchestra had lots of players from the top orchestras of London, including very prominently the London Symphony Orchestra. (Just as the Sinfonia of London.)


Does anyone have any information on either the National Philharmonic or the Sinfonia of London? Perhaps an online history or something to that effect? I see both of these orchestras listed in some of my favorite recordings and outside of what I've read about them on here (recording orchestras, lots of players from the LSO and other well-known ensembles in London) I can't find a lot of information.

I guess I'm just curious about how the organizations were set up. Was it contract only? Who was in charge of determining who played in the orchestras? Nerdy music stuff like that, etc etc.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2022 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Undecided Zebra   (Member)



Also as a minor point around time of Supergirl recording approx 70% of The National Philharmonic Orchestra was made up of LSO and former Players.


Yes, the National Philharmonic Orchestra had lots of players from the top orchestras of London, including very prominently the London Symphony Orchestra. (Just as the Sinfonia of London.)


Does anyone have any information on either the National Philharmonic or the Sinfonia of London? Perhaps an online history or something to that effect? I see both of these orchestras listed in some of my favorite recordings and outside of what I've read about them on here (recording orchestras, lots of players from the LSO and other well-known ensembles in London) I can't find a lot of information.

I guess I'm just curious about how the organizations were set up. Was it contract only? Who was in charge of determining who played in the orchestras? Nerdy music stuff like that, etc etc.


Yes you are right there appears little info on the internet.I had a friend who worked with Sidney Sax who was the orchestras main contractor and former concert master and worked with jerry Goldsmith on most of his scores with the orchestra in the 1980s and 1990s,I was fortunate to attend the recording of Supergirl at All saints church tooting. The orchestra was made up of mostly the L.SO the star to me being Maurice Murphy. Goldsmith appeared to know them all very well and he often requested particular players, Sidney sax was the Mr Fix it it would appear.The orchestra was essentially a contract one with a pool of mainly london players who earned additional income from their main orchestras.

 
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