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 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Film Music Reporter news article:
http://filmmusicreporter.com/2022/08/14/daniel-hart-scoring-david-lowerys-peter-pan-wendy/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Being a big PETER PAN fan...Im still waiting for a good realisation of a live action movie.Except for the animated Disney version..they all sucked.The Mia Farrow,Danny Kaye musical version was quite charming...but a good live action hasnt been done yet.The worst is probably HOOK..but it has the best score.
So maybe this series will be a decent version hopefully.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

What's wrong with the 2003 adaptation? I thought it was really quite good, especially Jason Isaacs in the dual role of Mr. Darling and Captain Hook. I know Peter Pan himself is cast older than his description in the book, but I don't think that's very avoidable. My wife is a huge fan of the original novel and she loves that film adaptation.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

You mean the one with James N. Howards score...well I found it too "american"and too much cg.I'm a big fan of the book and it is really hard I think to get it right.Spielbergs approach was a crime against all what Peter Pan stands for and his worst movie (for my taste..)Seeing that hairy grown up Robin Williams as Peter was just wrong.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

You mean the one with James N. Howards score...well I found it too "american"and too much cg.

Sounds like you have more an issue with the style than the content. I thought the adaptation was very faithfully done and generally well acted.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Yes you are right it was faithful to the story...but (of course a matter of taste) it lacked soul and was too "bloated" in a way...
And felt like a big TV adaptation too me.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   mollychops22   (Member)

Yes you are right it was faithful to the story...but (of course a matter of taste) it lacked soul and was too "bloated" in a way...
And felt like a big TV adaptation too me.

maybe

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

What's wrong with the 2003 adaptation? I thought it was really quite good, especially Jason Isaacs in the dual role of Mr. Darling and Captain Hook. I know Peter Pan himself is cast older than his description in the book, but I don't think that's very avoidable. My wife is a huge fan of the original novel and she loves that film adaptation.

Yavar


That 2003 film is superb, very effective, entertaining, well shot, well scored, acted, gorgeous sets, visual effects. A great film, nothing bloated or TV about it, not at all, a bit.


I also quite like the Pan from a few years ago that no one say, Pan directed by Joe Wright, quite marvelous.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I loved the 2003 film by PJ Hogan. Interesting that it is considered "too American." The film is stacked with a (nearly) all UK cast and crew and filmed in Queensland.

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2022 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

On the subject of the 2003 film, critic Steven D. Greydanus put his finger on why it didn't quite work for me. Here's an excerpt from his review:

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Hogan seems awkward and uncomfortable with the early scenes in London and the nursery. He lets us glimpse Peter too soon, before the stage has been set, and never quite captures the whimsy of a world in which a dog could be a nursemaid and an unattainable kiss hover in the right-hand region of a mother’s sweetly mocking mouth.

Another misstep is the characterization of Mr. Darling (Jason Isaacs, Lucius Malfoy in the last
Harry Potter film), who’s strangely diffident and tongue-tied rather than blustery and precipitous. ...

In the end, what keeps this
Peter Pan from being a great adaptation of Barrie’s story is that it is, finally, too self-aware. As I said above, the whole point of a fairy tale is to present in imaginative form what cannot be said openly, at least not yet. A fairy tale must be about something, but it must not, in a sense, know what it is about. Hogan’s Peter Pan does know.

Specifically, Captain Hook knows — and this alters the character’s whole dynamic in the story. The only reason Peter can beat Hook is that Peter is a child’s idea of magical childhood, and Hook is a child’s idea of grown-up malevolence. The moment Hook can
psychoanalyze Peter, he becomes a real grown-up, confronting in Peter the shadow of his own lost youth. No fair.

There’s also a significant kiss scene that treads too close to the heart of the story, especially in how the effects of the kiss are depicted. In the book, and in previous screen versions, there’s a moment when Peter expresses his bewilderment at what exactly it is that Wendy, Tinker Bell, and Tiger Lily all want to be to him, but Wendy can’t enlighten him: "It isn’t for a lady to tell." That’s as explicit as the story should get. (Compare to the scene in
The Fellowship of the Ring in which Gandalf says "I can put it no plainer than to say that Bilbo was meant to find the ring, and not by its maker." It must not be put any plainer, or fantasy becomes transparent allegory.)

Hogan veers over the line, in doing so creating what amounts to as much a commentary on
Peter Pan as an adaptation of it. It’s an interesting, enjoyable commentary, and fans of Peter Pan may enjoy it as I did, though something has been lost.

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Greydanus did, in fact, enjoy the film and gave it a respectable B (three stars out of four) rating. I've copied-and-pasted most of the negative bits, just because they illustrated my feelings better than I could. You can read the full review here if you want the more balanced view: http://decentfilms.com/reviews/peterpan2003

As for the upcoming film, I'm intrigued by the casting. (Love Jim Gaffigan!) I've always had a soft spot for the original animated Disney film, even with the "Disnefication" of the source material. But given Disney's track record with these live action adaptations, I'm not getting my hopes up! (I tend to be the odd man out, anyway ... I really could not stand their Jungle Book remake, for example, despite how well it was received! Nor was I a fan of Serkis' competing vision.)

After all these years, my favorite "straight" adaptation of Barrie's Pan works is still the 1927 silent film!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2022 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

The worst is probably HOOK..but it has the best score.
So maybe this series will be a decent version hopefully.


I have to agree - when I first saw Hook, I came away very disappointed.

By as life has passed on, I appreciate it more. It’s still pretty bad though.

I think the theme of forgetting your youth - adult life getting in the way - and then rediscovering wonder in the world is pretty..nice....actually. John Williams captures that in his score.

Stephen King used to write about that unnoticed transition from childhood wonder to adult cynicism quite a lot in his earlier books.

So, while Hook may be a poor Peter Pan film - I enjoy it for the score it gave us and the themes of rediscovering your youth and the redemption that comes with that.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The OST album is out where it's Friday



1. The Darling Darlings (2:47)
2. My Shadow (2:53)
3. All Grown Up – Molly Parker (1:11)
4. Neverland (2:42)
5. Never Say His Name (1:21)
6. Tea Time (2:08)
7. No Clocks (2:52)
8. Behemooth – Ian Tracey (1:34)
9. It’s Not Half Bad Being a Pirate (1:20)
10. Peter Pan Shall Perish Today (1:43)
11. Where You Go from Here Is Up to You (2:43)
12. The Very First Lost Boy (2:53)
13. The Shadow Run (1:04)
14. The Brig (2:01)
15. Ode to the Falling – Ian Tracey (2:08)
16. Did Anyone Hear a Splash? (0:49)
17. Faith, Trust and Pixie Dust (6:48)
18. Straight on ‘Til Chaos (2:32)
19. Reckoning (2:32)
20. Straight on ‘Til Morning (2:12)
21. Goodbye Peter Pan (3:35)

https://music.apple.com/nz/album/peter-pan-wendy-original-score/1683663831

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Jay_Zario   (Member)

It's a good score. I'd even say a really good score. Still low on the list of live action Pan scores because of the excellent standards Peter Pan score have had.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

Not feeling this. I really liked Powell's PAN. This is mostly forgettable.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

looks awful and rings false - like 99% of what Disney produces nowadays for its "magical" world of nothing (at all).

the 2003 version is the definitive one thanks to the talents of PJ Hogan and the cast and crew of this wonderful movie.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2023 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

It's a good score. I'd even say a really good score.

Yes. Yes.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2023 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

His compositional choices are...odd. The best way I can describe it, is that it's like a mishmash of admittedly splendid ideas, but without any kind of narrative or line tying things together?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2023 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

It's not a bad score but I found it weirdly unmemorable.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2023 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Jay_Zario   (Member)

Agreed to the two comments on top of me. Very good but strangely not so memorable.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2023 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Not feeling this. I really liked Powell's PAN. This is mostly forgettable.

I thought Pan was ok. But Bejamin Wallfisch's J.M. Barrie's Peter Pan is my favorite, excluding Hook.

 
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