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 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

I'm continuing checking Franco Ferrara's more arcane film music credits, and I've come along a Spanish-Italian Spaghetti Western "Dos hombres van a morir" / "Ringo il cavaliere solitario" (English title: "Ringo, The Lone Rider") released in 1968.

Beat Records Company released seven tracks from Francesco de Masi's score on a CD compilation:
https://www.discogs.com/de/release/1763467-Francesco-De-Masi-Gian-Piero-Reverberi-Bruno-Nicolai-Ringo-Il-Cavaliere-Solitario-Una-Colt-In-Pugno-


The only credited composer is a certain Manuel Parada (1911-1973)* in the Spanish version. Who is Manuel Parada? I've never heard of him before. He is not listed on Discogs as far as I can see.

*IMDb also lists Parada but with a completely different date of death. According to that 'soure', Parada died in 1980.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660809/


Confusing, isn't it?


Ferrara, by the way, isn't credited anywhere in the film. But he is credited as the conductor on the CD I've mentioned before.


The main theme heard during the film's main title sequence is clearly Francesco de Masi's compositon.


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Maybe Parada did a re score for the Spanish market. Or maybe it was for legal reasons. I don't know, I'm just thinking.
After a bit of a search, I noticed his name against a couple of Marchetti titles, yet the cds don't mention him at all.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Maybe Parada did a re score for the Spanish market. Or maybe it was for legal reasons. I don't know, I'm just thinking.
After a bit of a search, I noticed his name against a couple of Marchetti titles, yet the cds don't mention him at all.



That's interesting. It could be Parada's name served as a front. Pure speculation.
It would be interesting to find an Italian dubbed print and see if De Masi is properly credited there (as well as Ferrara).

Even an English dubbed version would be helpful.

Here is a trailer (not sure if that's an official one) with music only, lots of sound effects but no dialogue at all:

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

The Marchetti one I alluded to was ' I Vigliacchi non Pagano( Cowards Don't Pay). I don't recall seeing Parada's name on it but it's been years since I saw it ( had it on vhs). I think I would have noticed as it would have been a big deal to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Having watched the trailer you posted. I recognised Peter Martell. And do , indeed, have the film, on dvd( from wild east). DeMasi is the only one credited on the film. But it was a Spanish director.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I'm continuing checking Franco Ferrara's more arcane film music credits, and I've come along a Spanish-Italian Spaghetti Western "Dos hombres van a morir" / "Ringo il cavaliere solitario" (English title: "Ringo, The Lone Rider") released in 1968.

The only credited composer is a certain Manuel Parada (1911-1973)* in the Spanish version. Who is Manuel Parada? I've never heard of him before. He is not listed on Discogs as far as I can see.

Ferrara, by the way, isn't credited anywhere in the film. But he is credited as the conductor on the CD I've mentioned before.

I think at least in Spain Manuel Parada was a quite well-known film composer who had scored one of the most important war propaganda films during the Second World War with the title RAZA (in 1942). A suite of RAZA can be found on the "Clásicos del Ciné Espanol" Vol. 3 CD which was recorded by José Nieto with the Bratislava Symphony Orchestra in 2000:
https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/75980/Jos%C3%A9+Nieto+Dirige+la+M%C3%BAsica+De+Manuel+Parada+-+Cl%C3%A1sicos+Del+Cine+Espa%C3%B1ol+Vol.+3

The first two volumes of this three-part CD series had been devoted to the Spanish Golden Age composers Juan Quintero (in 1998) and Jésus Garcia Leoz (in 2000):
https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/70763/Cl%C3%A1sicos+Del+Cin%C3%A9+Espa%C3%B1https://www.amazon.de/Clasicos-Del-Cine-Espanol-V-2/dp/B000LZ659Yol+Vol.+1%3A+Juan+Quintero

For me the Quintero and Leoz CDs were music-wise the most interesting ones (I have both of them) whereas I found the Parada scores on Volume 3 rather mediocre.

Keep in mind that Parada often scored Spanish versions of Italian films during the 60s. For example two Italian crime films based on comic strips immediately come to mind which have been released on CD without even mentioning Parada´s name: SATANIK from 1968 of which the Italian version had been composed by Roberto Pregadio and Romano Mussolini and IL MARCHIO DI KRIMINAL also from 1968 which had been scored in Italy by Piero Umiliani. Beat Records released both of these CDs without mentioning Parada´s name at all:

https://www.discogs.com/de/release/7316240-Piero-Umiliani-Il-Marchio-Di-Kriminal-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack-
https://www.discogs.com/de/release/873330-Roberto-Pregadio-Romano-Mussolini-Satanik-Original-Soundtrack-Music

On the other hand, in both films Parada is credited as composer even in the Italian versions which is quite confusing. The same goes for I VIGLIACCHI NON PREGANO in which Gianni Marchetti is not credited in the Main Title at all, but only Parada! Sugar/CAM (and also the SIAE) however credited the music to Marchetti and no one else.

Besides the RINGO film there are a few more Italian westerns of which Parada scored the Spanish versions. There is even a Nino Rota comedy from 1958 with the title GLI ITALIANI SONO MATTI of which Parada apparently did the Spanish version as there was a Spanish co-director involved.
Another Spanish composer who did Spanish versions of a few French and Italian films in the same way during the 60s was Gregorio Garcia Segura. For example he did the music for the Spanish version of the swashbuckler IL FIGLIO DEL CAPITANO BLOOD in 1962 (which was then also taken over for the English version which can be found on Youtube) and replaced the original Italian one by Lavagnino.

An interesting side-note to Franco Ferrara´s involvement with RINGO IL CAVALIERE SOLITARIO: He isn´t credited as conductor in the movie at all (De Masi himself gets credited as conductor), but the SIAE and also the German GEMA list Ferrara as a kind of co-composer. So it seems that Ferrara apparently had either supplied a few tracks for this Spaghetti western in 1968 or it could be that a few older Ferrara cues had been recycled.
It has always been said that Ferrara - due to his illness- retired from conducting for films during the mid-60s. So he certainly didn´t conduct a De Masi western in 1968 anymore. Apparently, he had still done the conducting job for Mario Nascimbene´s VENGEANCE OF SHE in Autumn 1967 - at least if we can believe the infos from the CD booklet of that title. I don´t think that he did any feature film after that one.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

An interesting side-note to Franco Ferrara´s involvement with RINGO IL CAVALIERE SOLITARIO: He isn´t credited as conductor in the movie at all (De Masi himself gets credited as conductor), but the SIAE and also the German GEMA list Ferrara as a kind of co-composer. So it seems that Ferrara apparently had either supplied a few tracks for this Spaghetti western in 1968 or it could be that a few older Ferrara cues had been recycled.
It has always been said that Ferrara - due to his illness- retired from conducting for films during the mid-60s. So he certainly didn´t conduct a De Masi western in 1968 anymore. Apparently, he had still done the conducting job for Mario Nascimbene´s VENGEANCE OF SHE in Autumn 1967 - at least if we can believe the infos from the CD booklet of that title. I don´t think that he did any feature film after that one.



Thanks again, Stefan, for all the detailed info about Parada and other Spanish film composers. Very enlightening for me.


Regarding Ferrara: You will be in for a surprise. I have reliable info that Ferrara continued to conduct Mario's scores as late as in December 1970. He also conducted at least another Spaghetti Western. More to follow in the Ferrara thread soon.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2022 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Having watched the trailer you posted. I recognised Peter Martell. And do , indeed, have the film, on dvd( from wild east). DeMasi is the only one credited on the film. But it was a Spanish director.


Thanks, for looking this up. It's very helpful.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2022 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Franco Ferrara also conducted Francesco De Masi's score to the western "Quella sporca storia nel west" aka "Johnny Hamlet". The film was released in march '68 around the same time as the aforementioned western "Ringo il cavaliere solitario".

Source for the info: Filippo De Masi's CD liner notes

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2022 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Franco Ferrara also conducted Francesco De Masi's score to the western "Quella sporca storia nel west" aka "Johnny Hamlet". The film was released in march '68 around the same time as the aforementioned western "Ringo il cavaliere solitario".

Source for the info: Filippo De Masi's CD liner notes



Thanks alot for the info. I'll add that title to Ferrara's filmography. He is, of course, not credited in the Italian version. And I don't think, he received a credit in any other version.

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2022 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

The Marchetti one I alluded to was ' I Vigliacchi non Pagano( Cowards Don't Pay). I don't recall seeing Parada's name on it but it's been years since I saw it ( had it on vhs). I think I would have noticed as it would have been a big deal to me.

Damian thats Cowards Dont Prey.
Vigliacchi non pregano
Great score

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2022 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

The Marchetti one I alluded to was ' I Vigliacchi non Pagano( Cowards Don't Pay). I don't recall seeing Parada's name on it but it's been years since I saw it ( had it on vhs). I think I would have noticed as it would have been a big deal to me.

Damian thats Cowards Dont Prey.
Vigliacchi non pregano
Great score


Slip o' the wrist, Bill, still having flashes of Bowker's bum, so to speak smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2022 - 4:45 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Franco Ferrara also conducted Francesco De Masi's score to the western "Quella sporca storia nel west" aka "Johnny Hamlet". The film was released in march '68 around the same time as the aforementioned western "Ringo il cavaliere solitario".

Source for the info: Filippo De Masi's CD liner notes



As I don't have that CD (Beat Records Company – CDCR 97), I wanted to find a picture of the back cover to see what printed on it. Confusingly, the credits there are contradictary to what the liner notes say. Because on the back cover De Masi is also credited as the conductor not Franco Ferrara.

By the way, Alessandro Alessandroni co-composed a couple of tracks (he's not credited in the film).

Could you tell me, what exactly is stated in the liner notes about Ferrara conducting the score? Who wrote those notes?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2022 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)



By the way, Alessandro Alessandroni co-composed a couple of tracks (he's not credited in the film).

Could you tell me, what exactly is stated in the liner notes about Ferrara conducting the score? Who wrote those notes?


'I want to highlight the fact that M°deMasi, who usually conducted his own music, asked the greatest orchestra conductor of all time, M° Franco Ferrara( my father's teacher at Siena academy and my godfather), to conduct the perfomers'. - Filippo de Masi

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2022 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

That's awsome! Thanks alot, Prince Damian.



More info on Franco Ferrara (1911-1985) here:

- https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=146209

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2022 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Just to confirm this, Franco Ferrara did indeed compose additional music for "Dos hombres van a morir" / "Ringo il cavaliere solitario" (English title: "Ringo, The Lone Rider").

The CD released by Beat Records (CDCR 32) does not credit any track to Ferrara as composer. It would be interesting to find out if some of the music on the CD was actually composed by Ferrara and not by De Masi.

Title: "RINGO IL CAVALIERE SOLITFILM" [!]
Publisher: NEAPOLIS EDIZIONI MUSICALI, SRL
ISWC: T-005.646.822-4 (De Masi)
ISWC: T-005.647.127-2 (Ferrara)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2022 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

It's only my opinion but I'd say it's just DeMasi
on the disc, given that there's only about 20 mins on it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2022 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

It's only my opinion but I'd say it's just DeMasi
on the disc, given that there's only about 20 mins on it.



Yes, that's most likely the case.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2022 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Regarding "Ringo il cavaliere solitario"; the film actually re-uses several tracks from De Masi's "15 forche per un assassino" aka 15 scaffolds for a murderer, which was released just a couple of months prior to "Ringo....".

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2022 - 6:07 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Regarding "Ringo il cavaliere solitario"; the film actually re-uses several tracks from De Masi's "15 forche per un assassino" aka 15 scaffolds for a murderer, which was released just a couple of months prior to "Ringo....".



Thanks for the info.
De Masi is credited as the conductor in that film (English/US titles: "15 Scaffolds for a Murderer" or "The Dirty Fifteen".
The soundtrack was released on CD in 1995 by Beat Records (CDCR 28) coupled with "Gli specialisti" by A. F. Lavagnino.
Maybe De Masi didn't compose all that much original music for "Ringo il cavaliere scolitario"?

 
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