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 Posted:   Sep 13, 2022 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I never ever forget ALPHAVILLE, one of the most interesting science fiction films I've ever seen. Shaped my attitude of what film aesthetics could be while I was a budding movie buff growing up.
Farewell to one of the most interesting filmmakers of the French New Wave.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/movies/jean-luc-godard-dead.html

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2022 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

What a loss -- the last great giant of the New Wave. Although I was never a huge fan, I was always amazed by the complexity of his films. My favourite remains PIERROT LE FOU.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2022 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Liked rather than loved his work, hated the second half of “Weekend” but apart from that I’m happy to watch any of his films. “Breathless” remains a great feature debut.

Had a good innings.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2022 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Godard commited assisted suicide according to various reports. Must have been dire times for him during his final days.

I have to say, I've never really warmed towards his films (or personality) and therefore haven't seen that many.

I remember liking "Alphaville" and "Allemagne année 90 neuf zéro". In the theatre, I've only seen two of his films: "A bout de souffle" and "Nouvelle Vague". The music used in "Nouvelle Vague" was as sparse as outstanding, and no original score there.

In the 1990s, I've read his book "Einführung in eine wahre Geschichte des Kinos" (English title: Introduction to a True History of Cinema and Television) which I found insightful and interesting at the time. - In there, he had not a good word to say about Clint Eastwood's directorial faculties after he went to see "The Eiger Sanction". No surprise, actually.

May he rest in peace.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2022 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

I met him in a movie theater and we both watch Million Dollar Baby.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2022 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I met him in a movie theater and we both watch Million Dollar Baby.

I guess he thought that after THE EIGER SANCTION, Clint Eastwood's directorial style could only get better.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2022 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

It was captivating reading earlier this year how he was eagerly sought to direct Bonnie And Clyde.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2022 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

I am quite fond of "Alphaville" "Breathless" "Letter to Jane" "Sympathy for the Devil" and "Contempt." While I recognize his contributions to cinema and breadth of knowledge, his films usually just bore me. I did however base an entire grad school final exam essay on his quotation that "All non-fiction films are fiction." Maybe I quoted Rivette...or something like that (that was over 40 years ago now!). RIP with condolences to his family and friends.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

I watched "Godard Mon Amour", the Michel Hazanavicius film that is a satiric look at Godard's radical political concerns. The film portrays Godard as an out-of-touch figure who is never taken seriously as a far-left political figure by 1968-era youth.

I don't think Godard's devoted sycophants appreciated "Godard Mon Amour."

Not being a Godard devotee, I enjoyed the skewering of out-of-touch artists/celebrities. In fact, this could even be a microgenre! There should be a similiarly-toned film for other "save the world"-style celebrities, like John Lennon during his 1969 "bed peace" phase. However, Lennon has since been canonized as a "man of peace", despite his violent personal behavior towards women. However, anyone the media creates, the media can destroy.

I'm surprised that the poster who writes the highly-detailed filmographic overviews of recently-deceased film luminaries didn't do one for Godard. Not that I blame him, as there are only so many hours in a day.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I thought Patrick Stewart passed away!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

I thought Patrick Stewart passed away!

big grin

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I thought Patrick Stewart passed away!

He'll be survived by Jean Luck Pickerd.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

I take it that European art cinema is not popular at FSM!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I take it that European art cinema is not popular at FSM!


I watched Pierrot le Fou again recently. I could grow to love that film. Also been on a Leos Carax kick.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I take it that European art cinema is not popular at FSM!

Oui-Oui!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   ibelin   (Member)

I take it that European art cinema is not popular at FSM!

The problem with European art cinema is that so much of it is frickin' boring and pretentious (especially the films that resulted from the French New Wave). I get that film is a broad medium and isn't restricted to just popcorn flicks and the like, but I don't think it's the best medium for exploring philosophical and other intellectual ideas, which is what European art cinema films tended to do. Ingmar Bergman's films and Robert Bresson's films are a slog to get through. Jean-Luc Godard and François Truffaut were pretentious hacks. But not all of European art cinema is bad, of course. I like Werner Herzog's early films, and some of Andrei Tarkovsky's films are alright (but others are a PAIN to get through) once you understand what's going on in them. If I wanted to make myself feel smart by exploring intellectual ideas, then I'd go read a book. Which I occasionally do, but I'm nonetheless prepared to be called an anti-intellectual. smile

However, it is possible to make really intelligent films and have them NOT be boring. Stanley Kubrick is the perfect example of a director who did this, and he therefore gets all my respect. The only film of his that I find boring is 'Barry Lyndon'. I don't think the French New Wave films HAD to be so boring. They were probably made to be as pretentious as possible because the directors were trying to appear as intelligent as possible. This need to feel intellectually superior can also be seen in the world of postmodern literature.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2023 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I preferred Francois Truffaut and Jean-Pierre Melville, who I personally think is France's greatest director. Godard's pictures were too intellectual and in turn always felt immature. But he was a highly influential and hard working artist of the 20th Century and til today. For that he is a master.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2023 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

How "on the radar" are non-English films in the United States and the United Kingdom?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2023 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I preferred Francois Truffaut and Jean-Pierre Melville, who I personally think is France's greatest director. Godard's pictures were too intellectual and in turn always felt immature. But he was a highly influential and hard working artist of the 20th Century and til today. For that he is a master.

Absolutely Melville, really liked what I’ve seen of his, including Le Cercle Rouge, gave that another look the other week. How can you not enjoy a film with Delon, Montand, Volontè and the increasingly drunken official from Monte Carlo or Bust?

Truffaut I haven’t really warmed to - but hack? That opinion is a victim of modern polemics wherein everything is either “awesome” or “shit”.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2023 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


Truffaut I haven’t really warmed to - but hack? That opinion is a victim of modern polemics wherein everything is either “awesome” or “shit”.


Unfortunately "hack" really lost its meaning in the modern internet era, like you stated. Now it means that Truffaut, according to a few people, is on the same level as a Brett Ratner or McG.

As for my own appreciation of Truffaut, if you haven't seen The Last Metro, The Bride Wore Black, or The 400 Blows those are my three favorites.

Le Cercle Rogue is a masterful classic from Melville but don't sleep on his lesser known films like Le Silence de la Mer or Léon Morin, Priest. Army of Shadows stands out as my all-time favorite from him. Among the greatest war films ever made.

 
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