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Nov 23, 2022 - 1:44 PM
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WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 23
WHITE NOISE---trailer released for the comedy movie starring Adam Driver.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqGP-ScDTU
COPENHAGEN COWBOY---trailer released for the Netflix movie from Nicolas Winding Refn.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KBA_8tyI7U
MONEY HEIST: KOREA PART 2---trailer released for the Netflix heist series.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QCFifHyXNM
THE DEVIL CONSPIRACY---trailer released for the horror movie.
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_O6ctUxK1k
MARVEL STUDIOS---Quentin Tarantino commented on how Marvel Studios has adversely affected the movie industry, "There’s an aspect that if these movies were coming out when I was in my twenties, I would totally be f--king happy and totally love them. I mean, they wouldn’t be the only movies being made. They would be those movies amongst other movies. But, you know, I’m almost 60, so yeah. No, I’m not quite as excited about them."
He added, “My only axe to grind is they’re the only things that seem to be made, and they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them… So it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem. It’s a problem of representation.
Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters. But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Thor is the star. I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times, but it’s these franchise characters become a star.
Back in 2005, if an actor stars in a movie that does as good as the Marvel movies do, then that guy’s an absolute star. It means people dig him or her and they like them and want to see them in stuff. Sandra Bullock is in Speed and everyone thought she’s amazing in it. Everyone fell in love with her… They were excited by Sandra Bullock and wanted to see her in something else. That’s not the case now. We want to see that guy [keep] playing Wolverine or whatever."
THE WALKING DEAD---executive producer Scott Gimple hinted at more spinoffs in the future, "I'm hoping these are the first stories and characters we explore, and I really hope we do more. I will say that for TALES OF THE WALKING DEAD, my plan was to have a lot more of the old characters on there. I hope we get to do that eventually and I really, really do want to get into these other characters and other mythologies and other situations, so I'm hoping these are the first.
More TALES episodes or limited series or spin-offs. I have a lot of dreams of doing more. Right now, we're concentrating on these, but give us a little while and I hope that we can jump into other characters. In some ways, we are working on some, but we're not urgently working on them. We want to get these shows up on their feet and then start widening out the world again."
GARY OLDMAN---Gary Oldman reaffirmed he plans to retire soon, “I’ve had an enviable career, but careers wane, and I do have other things that interest me outside of acting. When you’re young, you think you’re going to get ’round to doing all of them – read that book – then the years go by.
I’m 65 next year, 70 is around the corner. I don’t want to be active when I’m 80. I’d be very happy and honored and privileged to go out as Jackson Lamb – and then hang it up.”
FRASIER---Kelsey Grammer commented on the upcoming reboot series, "There's surely going to be some return visits from a lot of the peripheral characters in Frasier's life. Some of them will show up. Some are not coming as regulars, but may make an appearance later on."
TRIVIA---Thanksgiving movie trivia.
In the final scene of the Thanksgiving movie PLANES, TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILES, Neal Page's mother-in-law, Peg, is played by Diana Douglas, the wife of Kirk Douglas and the mother of Michael Douglas.
Neal Page's mother-in-law, Peg, is played by Diana Douglas (on stairs), the wife of Kirk Douglas and the mother of Michael Douglas.
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Nov 24, 2022 - 8:06 AM
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Moonlit
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MARVEL STUDIOS---Quentin Tarantino commented on how Marvel Studios has adversely affected the movie industry, "There’s an aspect that if these movies were coming out when I was in my twenties, I would totally be f--king happy and totally love them. I mean, they wouldn’t be the only movies being made. They would be those movies amongst other movies. But, you know, I’m almost 60, so yeah. No, I’m not quite as excited about them."
He added, “My only axe to grind is they’re the only things that seem to be made, and they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them… So it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem. It’s a problem of representation.
Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters. But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Thor is the star. I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times, but it’s these franchise characters become a star.
Back in 2005, if an actor stars in a movie that does as good as the Marvel movies do, then that guy’s an absolute star. It means people dig him or her and they like them and want to see them in stuff. Sandra Bullock is in Speed and everyone thought she’s amazing in it. Everyone fell in love with her… They were excited by Sandra Bullock and wanted to see her in something else. That’s not the case now. We want to see that guy [keep] playing Wolverine or whatever."
I'd agree with this.
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Nov 24, 2022 - 10:00 AM
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Warlok
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MARVEL STUDIOS---Quentin Tarantino commented on how Marvel Studios has adversely affected the movie industry, "There’s an aspect that if these movies were coming out when I was in my twenties, I would totally be f--king happy and totally love them. I mean, they wouldn’t be the only movies being made. They would be those movies amongst other movies. But, you know, I’m almost 60, so yeah. No, I’m not quite as excited about them."
He added, “My only axe to grind is they’re the only things that seem to be made, and they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them… So it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem. It’s a problem of representation.
Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters. But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Thor is the star. I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times, but it’s these franchise characters become a star.
Back in 2005, if an actor stars in a movie that does as good as the Marvel movies do, then that guy’s an absolute star. It means people dig him or her and they like them and want to see them in stuff. Sandra Bullock is in Speed and everyone thought she’s amazing in it. Everyone fell in love with her… They were excited by Sandra Bullock and wanted to see her in something else. That’s not the case now. We want to see that guy [keep] playing Wolverine or whatever."
First, I can understand if the studios get pre-occupied with the BIG films... but that's been a syndrome around Hollywood ever since Spielberg became successful. I have read & heard such things in that context a thousand times.
So pinning it on big superhero films exclusively is not fair.
Second, so Chris Hemsorth, Robert Downey Jr., etc. are not "stars"?!? Just a couple of no-names running around lots trying to secure their next gigs?!? Phhhh.
Dumb comment.
Also, wasn't the Age Of Stars a stupider era? As in, personalities were directing the courses of studios, instead of projects with merit i.e. the theater?
Third, actually, yeah - that's a theater success, when you get people to appreciate the character an actor plays over their actor... it means you pulled off the story. That's how invested the audience was in your characters. Who doesn't want to see (in their primes!) Shatner and Nimoy playing more Kirk & Spock, Ford playing Indy, Falk Columbo, etc etc. .
Just sounds like the result of a search to say something profound.
Back to what I might agree with, executives not paying attention to lesser projects (than blockbusters) is a problem perhaps, which I agree *is* a problem where it exists, but casting that as an exclusively superhero trait is beyond the bounds of that problem.
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Nov 24, 2022 - 8:21 PM
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Solium
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MARVEL STUDIOS---Quentin Tarantino commented on how Marvel Studios has adversely affected the movie industry, "There’s an aspect that if these movies were coming out when I was in my twenties, I would totally be f--king happy and totally love them. I mean, they wouldn’t be the only movies being made. They would be those movies amongst other movies. But, you know, I’m almost 60, so yeah. No, I’m not quite as excited about them."
He added, “My only axe to grind is they’re the only things that seem to be made, and they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them… So it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem. It’s a problem of representation.
Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters. But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Thor is the star. I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times, but it’s these franchise characters become a star.
Back in 2005, if an actor stars in a movie that does as good as the Marvel movies do, then that guy’s an absolute star. It means people dig him or her and they like them and want to see them in stuff. Sandra Bullock is in Speed and everyone thought she’s amazing in it. Everyone fell in love with her… They were excited by Sandra Bullock and wanted to see her in something else. That’s not the case now. We want to see that guy [keep] playing Wolverine or whatever."
First, I can understand if the studios get pre-occupied with the BIG films... but that's been a syndrome around Hollywood ever since Spielberg became successful. I have read & heard such things in that context a thousand times.
So pinning it on big superhero films exclusively is not fair.
Second, so Chris Hemsorth, Robert Downey Jr., etc. are not "stars"?!? Just a couple of no-names running around lots trying to secure their next gigs?!? Phhhh.
Dumb comment.
Also, wasn't the Age Of Stars a stupider era? As in, personalities were directing the courses of studios, instead of projects with merit i.e. the theater?
Third, actually, yeah - that's a theater success, when you get people to appreciate the character an actor plays over their actor... it means you pulled off the story. That's how invested the audience was in your characters. Who doesn't want to see (in their primes!) Shatner and Nimoy playing more Kirk & Spock, Ford playing Indy, Falk Columbo, etc etc. .
Just sounds like the result of a search to say something profound.
Back to what I might agree with, executives not paying attention to lesser projects (than blockbusters) is a problem perhaps, which I agree *is* a problem where it exists, but casting that as an exclusively superhero trait is beyond the bounds of that problem.
I don't think he's that far off regarding the audience going to the theater to see characters instead of stars. Most people go see "franchises". Doesn't matter how bad they are a Star Wars movie will make a billion dollars. A fun original movie like Tomorrowland doesn't attract an audience.
I do disagree that there are no stars anymore. RDJ is certainly a star... Hemsworth not so much.
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MARVEL STUDIOS---Quentin Tarantino commented on how Marvel Studios has adversely affected the movie industry, "There’s an aspect that if these movies were coming out when I was in my twenties, I would totally be f--king happy and totally love them. I mean, they wouldn’t be the only movies being made. They would be those movies amongst other movies. But, you know, I’m almost 60, so yeah. No, I’m not quite as excited about them."
He added, “My only axe to grind is they’re the only things that seem to be made, and they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them… So it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem. It’s a problem of representation.
Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters. But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Thor is the star. I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times, but it’s these franchise characters become a star.
Back in 2005, if an actor stars in a movie that does as good as the Marvel movies do, then that guy’s an absolute star. It means people dig him or her and they like them and want to see them in stuff. Sandra Bullock is in Speed and everyone thought she’s amazing in it. Everyone fell in love with her… They were excited by Sandra Bullock and wanted to see her in something else. That’s not the case now. We want to see that guy [keep] playing Wolverine or whatever."
I don't necessarily disagree with what Tarantino says, but I also don't see it as a bad thing. Yes, the days of actors like Schwarzenegger, Stallone or Ford commanding a huge box office by having their name plastered on posters and ads are gone, but I also think the world has completely changed.
Today it is very easy to find out quite a bit of information regarding just about any film coming out. Within minutes, you can get access to everything you would ever want to know about a film and more, including trailers, behind the scenes promos and early reviews. If you know where to look, you can even find the whole film. Back when stars were STARS, it was much more difficult to learn much about a film. You usually only caught a trailer if you were seeing another film and got lucky. Most information you saw about a film is if you caught a promo on Entertainment Tonight or other similar shows or caught one of the leads promoting the film on a late night talk show. So yeah, if you love Harrison Ford, then you might be more disposed to see a film with Ford in it without knowing much about the film because you enjoy his performances. Today, you can look at the films with a lot more scrutiny and evaluate whether it is worth your time.
With respect to the "Marvel-ization" effect he is talking about, that is also nothing new. Whenever a beloved book, comic, etc., is brought to the big screen, the characters and story overshadow the actual actors playing them. How many actors complained about being typecast after playing an iconic character? Just as an example that precedes the MCU, the Lord of the Rings films were extremely successful, but how many of those actors became big box office stars? Orlando Bloom has had the most success, but that is mostly because he was lucky enough to become associated with two big franchises. Once those wells dried . . .
Lastly, the existence of a big star may help a film at the box office, but it doesn't necessarily mean their films are any good. Plenty of "big stars" have been in some pretty awful films.
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Nov 26, 2022 - 1:19 AM
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Moonlit
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I don't necessarily disagree with what Tarantino says, but I also don't see it as a bad thing. Yes, the days of actors like Schwarzenegger, Stallone or Ford commanding a huge box office by having their name plastered on posters and ads are gone, but I also think the world has completely changed.
Today it is very easy to find out quite a bit of information regarding just about any film coming out. Within minutes, you can get access to everything you would ever want to know about a film and more, including trailers, behind the scenes promos and early reviews. If you know where to look, you can even find the whole film. Back when stars were STARS, it was much more difficult to learn much about a film. You usually only caught a trailer if you were seeing another film and got lucky. Most information you saw about a film is if you caught a promo on Entertainment Tonight or other similar shows or caught one of the leads promoting the film on a late night talk show. So yeah, if you love Harrison Ford, then you might be more disposed to see a film with Ford in it without knowing much about the film because you enjoy his performances. Today, you can look at the films with a lot more scrutiny and evaluate whether it is worth your time.
With respect to the "Marvel-ization" effect he is talking about, that is also nothing new. Whenever a beloved book, comic, etc., is brought to the big screen, the characters and story overshadow the actual actors playing them. How many actors complained about being typecast after playing an iconic character? Just as an example that precedes the MCU, the Lord of the Rings films were extremely successful, but how many of those actors became big box office stars? Orlando Bloom has had the most success, but that is mostly because he was lucky enough to become associated with two big franchises. Once those wells dried . . .
Lastly, the existence of a big star may help a film at the box office, but it doesn't necessarily mean their films are any good. Plenty of "big stars" have been in some pretty awful films.
I personally concentrate on this part of Tarentino's take.....
He added, “My only axe to grind is they’re the only things that seem to be made, and they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them… So it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem. It’s a problem of representation.
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Orlando Bloom has had the most success, but that is mostly because he was lucky enough to become associated with two big franchises. Once those wells dried . . .
What was the other one? And don't say "The Hobbit" because that don't count!
My mistake. Pirates of the Caribbean is the only other franchise outside of LOTR that Bloom was associated with. I agree The Hobbit doesn't count.
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