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 Posted:   Feb 1, 2023 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

I've always loved the Star Trek franchise and especially its film scores, but I must confess that I find most of the music from the shows of the Berman era to be somewhat wallpaper-y and unengaging. Now that all you Trekkies have had some time to live with the 50 odd discs of material that have been made available for these shows by the fine folks at LLL, FSM and GNP, I'm curious --

What are your desert island tracks for these shows, that is for TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT? And if you had to make 1-2 disc compilations for each of these series, which tracks would you include?

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2023 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Well, as the Berman era of Star Trek represents my favorite era of scoring for the franchise, I would be hard-pressed to narrow down favorites to 1-2 disc per series. Sorry if that is a "hot take" or doesn't make sense to anyone else here, but I don't need to justify or explain why it resonates with me more than TOS or Paramount+ era scores. But admittedly, it's a lot of albums, so what I did was initially create highlights of 1 CD=1 season, with the CD length being around 75 minutes. For the years of TNG when Ron Jones was scoring episodes, I often extended these highlights collections to 2 CDs per season. Last year, I decided to whittle things down further, focusing on composer for TNG and then multiple seasons per CD for DS9, VOY and ENT. I can post my track lists for each soon, if you like.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2023 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Most of my favorite cues are from early TNG and Enterprise. DS9 and Voyager had their moments (mostly from Chattaway).

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Jumped right to mind: Q Who: “Get Out of Here” and “They Will Be Coming.”

That particular Enterprise theme was the perfect cap to that pretty great episode. The producers were idiots for telling the composers to avoid themes and never repeat them. That should have been TNG's Enterprise theme from that spot on. Stylistically, it works well with what Goldsmith used to open his three TNG movies.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

The only Berman era scores I've returned to repeatedly are Jones' BoBW, Chattaway's Tin Man, and McCarthy's Yesterday's Enterprise.

Admittedly, I should take time out to listen to all the sets again.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

The reality of this topic is that most casual fans purchased volumes 1-4 of TNG music from GNP Crescendo Records and stopped there. This is totally fine, those 4 volumes are filled with excellent examples of great music from the three primary composers McCarthy, Jones and Chattaway. In addition, there are two "Best of Trek" albums from GNP, each which feature worthwhile score from TNG (the series finale), DS9 ("The Way of the Warrior" and "The Visitor") and VOY.

However, if you are interested in exploring more music beyond the GNP album releases from the 1987-2005 years of Star Trek on TV, then I have some suggestions.

First, and most important - find and acquire that Ron Jones TNG box set from FSM. Yes, it's 15 discs featuring music from all 40 episodes that Jones scored, but as fantastic as his "Best of Both Worlds" score is, it doesn't provide the full spectrum of what he brought musically to TNG. For me, the other highlights from his output would be:

Season 1:
Where No One Has Gone Before
11001001
Datalore
Heart of Glory
Skin of Evil

Season 2:
Where Silence Has Lease (mainly the "Auto-Destruct" cues)
The Royale
Q Who
The Emissary

Season 3:
Evolution
Who Watches The Watchers
The High Ground
The Offspring

Season 4:
Brothers
Data's Day
Final Mission
Devil's Due
Night Terrors

Regarding Dennis McCarthy's TNG scores, outside of volumes 1 and 3 from GNP, my favorites are as follows. Some are represented by single tracks or single cues on the multi-disc sets from LLL:

Season 1:
The Last Outpost
The Big Goodbye
Coming of Age

Season 2:
Elementary Dear Data
Contagion
Manhunt (1 jazz cue)
Peak Performance

Season 3:
The Survivors
The Enemy (1 cue on the 50th anniversary set, love the synth pulse vibe)
Transfigurations (on the 50th anniversary set)

Season 4:
Family (1 cue)
Q-Pid (on the 50th anniversary set)
Half a Life (1 cue)
Redemption (1 cue)

Season 5:
Conundrum (1 cue)

Season 6:
Lessons (1 cue)

Season 7:
Force of Nature (1 cue)
Genesis (1 cue)
Parallels (on the 50th anniversary set)

Regarding Jay Chattaway's TNG scores, outside of volume 4 from GNP, my favorites are as follows. Again, some are represented by single tracks or single cues on the multi-disc sets from LLL:

Season 4:
Remember Me

Season 5:
Darmok
Silicon Avatar
Power Play
The Perfect Mate

Season 6:
Relics
Frame of Mind

Season 7:
Emrrgence
Preemptive Strike

I can follow up later with cues or episode examples from DS9, VOY, ENT...










 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Individual cues would take a while to figure out.

For TNG, my favorite Chattaway score is "Tin Man", my favorite McCarthy score is "Arsenal of Freedom" (which GNP added complete to their expanded/remastered "Encounter at Farpoint), and my favorite Jones score is "Q Who?" (yes, it's even better than "Best of Both Worlds", IMO, with the largest orchestra he ever got for the series).

But there are TONS of great Ron Jones scores for the series.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

A lot of the early TNG stuff is very nice, and Ron Jones is tops (my favorite is "The Offspring"). But from the post-Jones era, I love Jay Chattaway's Dominion motif from the 5th season DS9 episode "Call to Arms." I'm also fond of his music from VGR's "Scorpion" two-parter.

A few others, off the top of my head ... David Bell's "In the Pale Moonlight" (DS9). Paul Baillargeon's "The Siege of AR-558" (DS9). Dennis McCarthy's "Image in the Sand" (DS9). Mark McKenzie's "Horizon" (ENT). Velton Ray Bunch's "Judgment" and "Similitude" (ENT).

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

A lot of the early TNG stuff is very nice, and Ron Jones is tops (my favorite is "The Offspring"). But from the post-Jones era, I love Jay Chattaway's Dominion motif from the 5th season DS9 episode "Call to Arms." I'm also fond of his music from VGR's "Scorpion" two-parter.

Yes and yes to both of those Chattaway scores!

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

I can't think of any stand out tracks off hand but David Bell's work on VOYAGER always grabbed my attention, particularly his action music and Paul Baillargeon did some great work on that show as well. Chattaway and McCarthy get a lot of credit because they did the bulk of music from the Berman years but their styles always seemed too hard for me to pick apart. My memory of watching VOYAGER in particular is that any time I heard a score that really stood out to me and I watched til the end credits to see who it was, a good amount of the time it was either Bell or Baillargeon.

Also gotta give love to Ron Jones and Best of Both Worlds, particularly part 1. I remember thinking how creepy and foreboding the music was--it really added a cinematic flourish to the production.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 10:54 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I can't think of any stand out tracks off hand but David Bell's work on VOYAGER always grabbed my attention, particularly his action music and Paul Baillargeon did some great work on that show as well. Chattaway and McCarthy get a lot of credit because they did the bulk of music from the Berman years but their styles always seemed too hard for me to pick apart. My memory of watching VOYAGER in particular is that any time I heard a score that really stood out to me and I watched til the end credits to see who it was, a good amount of the time it was either Bell or Baillargeon.

Also gotta give love to Ron Jones and Best of Both Worlds, particularly part 1. I remember thinking how creepy and foreboding the music was--it really added a cinematic flourish to the production.


Agreed, David Bell contributed some exciting music this era of Trek, especially DS9 episodes "Sacrifice of Angels" and "The Dogs of War", plus the VOY episode "Dark Frontier". Baillargon contributed some nice scores at times ("Siege of AR-588), but I think his music often had too light of a touch for action sequences.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2023 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)



Agreed, David Bell contributed some exciting music this era of Trek, especially DS9 episodes "Sacrifice of Angels" and "The Dogs of War", plus the VOY episode "Dark Frontier". Baillargon contributed some nice scores at times ("Siege of AR-588), but I think his music often had too light of a touch for action sequences.


I'd say Baillegeon really picks up the pace for his Enterprise scores.

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2023 - 12:20 AM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

This is a helpful thread. As a lifelong fan of the original series and its superb music, I too as a general rule have found the spin off scores rather unmemorable ('wallpapery' is an apt appraisal indeed). I have bought most of the releases in order to support the labels and in hopes I might warm up to them at some point.

I look forward to following up on the various suggestions contributed here.

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2023 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   DaveM   (Member)

Here's what I consider highlights from Star Trek Voyager & Enterprise in order of Collection:

Star Trek Voyager:
-The Main Titles (Jerry Goldsmith)
-CARETAKER: Set Course For Home (Chattaway)
Best Of Volume 1:
-HEROES AND DEMONS: Where's Freya / To The Rescue (McCarthy)
Best Of Volume 2:
-BRIDE OF CHAOTICA: Begin Chapter 18 / Present... Arachnia (Bell)
-BRIDE OF CHAOTICA: Confinemanet Rings / Segue To Torres (Bell)
Volume 1:
-PATHFINDER: Voyager Sends Massage (Chattaway)
-SHATTERED: Tuvok's Demise (Chattaway)
-THE 37's: S.O.S. / The Voyager Lands (McCarthy)
-CONCERNING FLIGHT: Slow Speed Chase / Airborne... (McCarthy)
-DARK FRONTIER: Mission Simulation Fails... (Bell)
-DARK FRONTIER: Delta Flyer Launches For Rescue... (Bell)
-SCORPION: Recap / Agreemend Reached (Chattaway)
-YEAR OF HELL: Assaulted / Futile Defence (McCarthy)
-YEAR OF HELL: The Captain (McCarthy)
-YEAR OF HELL: Battle / Time's Up... (McCarthy)
Volume 2:
-THE CHUTE: Bad View (Chattaway)
-SCIENTIFIC METHOD: Deck By Deck Survey (Chattaway)
-JETREL: Enola Gay / Forgiven (McCarthy)
-LIVE FAST AND PROSPER: Nelix's Tale / The Database Heist (Baillargeon)
-HOMESTEAD: Neelix Goodbye (Bell)
ENDGAME (Chattaway):
-Welcome Home
-Checking Out The Hub... / Harry's Big Speech
-The Compromise... / End Of The Game
-LATENT IAMAGE: Janeway's Piano (Source by Baillargeon)
The Final Frontier:
-ONE: 17 Hours To Savety / Beating The Loneliness (Chattaway)
-INFINITE REGRESS: Naomi The Detective (McCarthy)
-REAL LIFE: Belle's Death (McCarthy)

Star Trek Enterprise:
-BROKEN BOW: Enterprise First Flight (McCarthy)
Volume 1:
-THE EXPANSE: There Is One / Loop-De-Loop (McCarthy)
-TWILIGHT: Showdown / Back To The Past (McCarthy)
-STORMFRONT (2): Stukas Incoming / The Vortex (McCarthy & Kiner)
-STORMFRONT (2): Home At Last (McCarthy & Kiner)
-NORH STAR: Gun Fight / Final Fight (Chattaway)
-STORMFRONT (1): Deniels' Goodbye (Chattaway)
-BOUND: Kelby Under The Spell (Chattaway)
-TERRA PRIME: Archer's Speech (Chattaway)
-TERRA PRIME: Grieving (Chattaway)
-HORIZON: Star Map (McKenzie)
-HORIZON: Band Of Brothers (McKenzie)
-DEAR DOCTOR: Doc's First Intellment... (Bell)
-FIRST FLIGHT: Prototype Crash (Baillargeon)
-PROVING GROUND: Turning The Tables (Frizzel)
-SIMILUTUDE: You Owe Me One (RAY BUNCH)
-THE AUGMENTS: Recap / Teaser (RAY BUNCH)
-IN A MIRROR, DARKLY: First Contact Revisited (McCarthy & Kiner)
-IN A MIRROR, DARKLY: Mirror Main Title (McCarthy & Kiner)
-IN A MIRROR, DARKLY: Empress Hoshi (McCarthy & Kiner)
-REGENERATION: Borg Attack / Borg Attack 2 (Tyler)
-THESE ARE THE VOYAGES...: Heroic / Trek Theme Montage (McCarthy & Kiner)
Volume 2:
-BREAKING THE ICE: The Comet (McCarthy)
-STIGMA: A Promise / vuris Saves The Day (McCarthy)
-DOCTOR'S ORDERS: Empty Ship (McCarthy & Kiner)
-DETAINED: Big Bang / Suliban Liberation (Chattaway)
-CARBON CREEK: The Hustler (Chattaway)
-ANOMALY: The Sphere (Chattaway)
-E2: Joining Forces... (Chattaway)
-DIVERGENCE: Prepare For Transfer / Trip Transfere (Chattaway)
-DAWN: Trip Crash Lands (Bell)
-THE FORGOTTEN: Goodbye Elizabeth (Baillargeon)
-CANAMAR: End Of Kuroda (Tyler)
-THE FORGE: Rogue Bomb (Frizzel)
-ACQUISITION: Trip Chased (Bunch)
-ACQUISITION: Vault Scheme / Krem Gets His Ship (Bunch)
-EXILE: The Voice Returns... (Bunch)
-EXILE: Space Landing (Bunch)
-THE CAUNCIL: Weapon Launched (Bunch)
-AFFLICTION: "Mind Meld Memory", "T'Pols Daydream", "Columbia First Flight" & "Warp 5.2" (Bunch)
The Final Frontier:
-HARBINGER: Recap / Red Cloud (Bunch)
-HOME: Vulcan Wedding (Bunch)
-ANOMALY: Osaarian Showdown (Chattaway)
-AZATI PRIME: End Game (Chattaway)

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2023 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Thanks for chiming in here, Dave, your list really helps to round out this thread!

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2023 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

I've gotta say I'm thrilled this thread has gotten so many replies. I grew up on Star Trek and have seen each of these series all the way through at least once, but I was young enough at the time that I can't say many of the individual episode scores stuck with me outside of the very best ones, e.g. BOBW, The Inner Light, and Scorpion. 50 discs worth of music is just such an overwhelming amount of music to explore, even if I was really in love with all of it.

Anyway, thanks for the contributions you've all made so far! I think all these excellent replies have put me in a better position to connect with this music in the future (and provided an excuse to rewatch some of the best episodes to see how the scores function on screen).

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2023 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I've gotta say I'm thrilled this thread has gotten so many replies. I grew up on Star Trek and have seen each of these series all the way through at least once, but I was young enough at the time that I can't say many of the individual episode scores stuck with me outside of the very best ones, e.g. BOBW, The Inner Light, and Scorpion. 50 discs worth of music is just such an overwhelming amount of music to explore, even if I was really in love with all of it.

Anyway, thanks for the contributions you've all made so far! I think all these excellent replies have put me in a better position to connect with this music in the future (and provided an excuse to rewatch some of the best episodes to see how the scores function on screen).


Cool deal! I also have to complement you on your "Key & Peele" reference in your username, "A. A. Ron"!

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2023 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

I've gotta say I'm thrilled this thread has gotten so many replies. I grew up on Star Trek and have seen each of these series all the way through at least once, but I was young enough at the time that I can't say many of the individual episode scores stuck with me outside of the very best ones, e.g. BOBW, The Inner Light, and Scorpion. 50 discs worth of music is just such an overwhelming amount of music to explore, even if I was really in love with all of it.

Anyway, thanks for the contributions you've all made so far! I think all these excellent replies have put me in a better position to connect with this music in the future (and provided an excuse to rewatch some of the best episodes to see how the scores function on screen).


Cool deal! I also have to complement you on your "Key & Peele" reference in your username, "A. A. Ron"!


Haha yeah they're pretty great. It's also pretty amazing how many people have seen that specific sketch. Since it aired I haven't been able to start a new job or meet a new group of friends without inevitably getting rechristened "A. A. Ron." At this point I've just accepted that it's my name now.

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2023 - 10:13 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Too many to count for me I love the Berman era music especially DS9/Voyager and Enterprise

 
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