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 Posted:   Mar 24, 2023 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Don't put words in my mouth.

I didn't. I said your knee-jerk post, the very first reply in the thread, basically ignored our podcast entirely (because there's no way you could have listened to it that quickly, and no doubt you still haven't bothered to listen to it). And I said that your post was dismissive and *suggested* (implication, not actual text) that there was little worth to our conversation, because you made it quite clear you felt there was no worth whatsoever to the Director's Edition of TMP, no justification for it even having been attempted, nothing rushed or unfinished about the original film. Not a single DE change was good or worth even attempting, right? And you needed to let everyone know that right away, on a post about a podcast with Mike Matessino.

I never criticized the podcast or this thread.

The criticism was strongly implied/suggested by the content of your post as I already explained, not directly stated.

I criticized the changes made to the film which is the subject of the podcast and challenged the narrative regarding the changes.

Did you bother to listen to the narrative IN the podcast that was the subject of the thread? No, I don't believe you did. In fact many of the new tweaks to the '22 edition of the film were fixing/improving things which Mike/the team thought were flawed about the '01 edition! That is, Mike probably *aligns* with you on multiple criticisms you had about that (like the sound, no doubt) and part of what we discuss is things he was never satisfied with on the original Director's Edition (which was hampered by certain constraints of its own at the time it was made). But you wouldn't know that if you didn't bother to listen and just took the thread as another opportunity to rag on the very notion of Robert Wise wanting to finish a film which was so rushed into theaters he had to transport cans of it himself.

How dare I voice an opinion and challenge the narrative put fourth by those who altered the film.

Well, first of all (as has already been pointed out): unlike say the original Star Wars trilogy, the original theatrical cut (warts and all) is READILY AVAILABLE for you in a lovely 4K edition! Nobody is taking the original film away from you and irrevocably altering it! There were plenty of other TMP DE threads, not about a podcast conversation, to voice your objections in (and you certainly have). What I took issue with was your apparent need to be the FIRST reply in a new thread about a podcast... and immediately demonstrate you didn't listen to or give a damn about said podcast. You basically just wanted to attack it for even existing, because you felt the DE itself shouldn't exist. But hey, the damage is done so congrats! I'm ready to move on now. Hey, how about getting that unreleased Secret of NIMH music? That's something we can agree on, at least.


 Posted:   Mar 24, 2023 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

It's definitely important to listen to this episode (and also the new commentary on the DE 4K/Blu-ray) to gain clarity, understanding and knowledge behind the work done on this version of TMP.

By the way, this episode seems to cut off early... I downloaded it and noted that it ran around 4 hours/6 minutes, however at that elapsed time it stops in mid-sentence by Mike...

 Posted:   Mar 24, 2023 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   Atham   (Member)

I thought it ended abruptly. That's okay. What came before it was over four hours of fantastic content from all involved that was a godsend to me as I laid in bed last week with covid. Having so much to take in and enjoy by Mike and co was both a delight and a distraction. All brilliant, wonderful listening and I'm very grateful. Thank you!

 Posted:   Mar 24, 2023 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

I think that after the show was over, they added a little bit of bonus conversation. They don't like to waste anything!

 Posted:   Mar 25, 2023 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

By the way, this episode seems to cut off early... I downloaded it and noted that it ran around 4 hours/6 minutes, however at that elapsed time it stops in mid-sentence by Mike...

Yeah, sorry, Tom. It's the end of a sentence, but not the thought, which remains in the show. This 2001 digression was cited as the one that pulled some of us out of the talk, so I took it out and tacked it onto the end as an extra. It hadn't occurred to me that the fact that it is an extra is 100% unclear. Just because we know that we always end with a Closing Cue doesn't meant that anyone else knows that, or should.

Because someone else made that same, helpful comment earlier this week, I re-uploaded the show with little editor tape-beeps on each end of the anecdote as an aural cue that it's an edited bit. Later downloaders probably got that.

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