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 Posted:   Apr 13, 2023 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Just thought I'd give this community a heads up as I figured it would be of great interest to anyone nearby.

The Austin (TX) Symphony Orchestra just announced their 23/24 season. The Orchestra Pops will be doing an all Jerry Goldsmith program June 8, 2024 entitled "Movie Music Magic: Film Music from Earth & Beyond."

The program description:

In June come join your ASO and hear some of film's greatest works from Rambo, Gremlins, Star Trek, and more. All movie scores were written by award-winning composer Jerry Goldsmith. He was nominated for six Grammy Awards, five Primetime Emmy Awards, nine Golden Globe Awards, four British Academy Film Awards, and eighteen Academy Awards (winning in 1976 for The Omen). Your Symphony is one of only a few orchestras given rights to perform some of his amazing catalog.

Link: https://issuu.com/austinsymphony/docs/aso_brochure_-_23-24_-_final_-_sd/1?ff

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2023 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

I'm kinda digging their season in general! Britten's piano concerto! Dvorak's violin concerto! Well-known composers but these are works that aren't performed as often as they should be.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2023 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

Is there a specific reason the Goldsmith estate rarely allows his music to be played in a concert setting?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2023 - 2:28 AM   
 By:   maurizio.caschetto   (Member)

Is there a specific reason the Goldsmith estate rarely allows his music to be played in a concert setting?

I don't know the specifics, but I am sure Jeff Bond and other Goldsmith scholars may know details. I think some pieces are available for rental to orchestra through JAKMS, but I don't know if that needs to be preapproved by whoever manages the Goldsmith estate. There are a number of concertized versions from his scores (the ones he used to conduct himself), but it's still a fragment of his incredibly vast output. In addition to that, some of that stuff was often reorchestrated, losing some of the more peculiar (and difficult to reproduce in a live setting) instrumentation choices.

A lot of Goldsmith's music needs much more rehearsal work to be performed properly, as it's written in a very complex way. This is why perhaps Goldsmith is still incredibly underrated when it comes to concert performance of his film music. We need someone trusted to work on the manuscripts to create new performable suites that keep the integrity of the composition (much like Leigh Phillips is doing), and also a conductor that takes all that to heart and start to champion Goldsmith's repertoire to the audience (Dave Newman would be perfect for this job). This is crucial to keep his outstanding musical legacy alive beyond the film score nerds bubble.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2023 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Is there a specific reason the Goldsmith estate rarely allows his music to be played in a concert setting?

I had also assumed, perhaps incorrectly, it was a popularity or notoriety thing. Goldsmith is revered within our circles. But, if you go up and ask anyone on the streets who Jerry Goldsmith was, you'll get blank stares. If you ask who John Williams is, they know. Or at least enough to point to Star Wars.

Had this just been another John Williams' greatest hits concert, I wouldn't have bothered posting about it since those are so common anymore. But because its so rare to have Jerry's music in concert, and even rarer to have an all Goldsmith program, I had to say something. In some ways the ASO is taking a risk, but what a wonderful risk it is.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2023 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

That sounds great. My local orchestra knows John Williams and John Williams when it comes to film music. I mean I appreciate those concerts, but I bet some of this stuff I've heard a dozen times live at this point.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2023 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

This is pretty amazing news, thanks for posting c8 and giving everyone an early heads up! I live in Canada but just may plan a trip to Austin for 2024 for something as special as this! Any idea how soon you will be able to buy tickets to this concert? I haven't read all the info so maybe tickets are already available for purchase.
EDIT: Actually I just checked on the Austin Symphony site and tickets are not for sale yet. Available for purchase Aug 7.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2023 - 10:29 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

In one respect, this is most welcome news that al all-Goldsmith concert is scheduled in the USA 15 months from now. I've already scoped out the concert hall, the flight from New Jersey, and a nearby hotel. Not cheap, but do-able. We'll see what the future holds.

In another respect, since I had attended a number of Goldsmith-conducted concerts in the past, I'm hoping that the longtime conductor (25+ years) Peter Bay will be able to choose some new selections that I haven't heard in a Goldsmith concert before.

Since it's far enough in the future, maybe we could suggest some favorites to him. For myself, I've always wanted to hear "The Trees" (from MEDICINE MAN) live. I once asked Jerry after a concert why he never included that cue in his concerts. He said that he was reluctant to do it because of the difficulty incorporating the electronics in a live performance. Honestly, I could have lived without the electronics at a live concert. But that was Jerry, the perfectionist.

If you had to choose JUST ONE never-performed cue, do y'all have any other "new" suggestions for conductor Bay? Remember, JUST ONE. I'm sure we each could all submit dozens of cues if that were allowed.

Looking forward to seeing John Williams in NYC at Lincoln Center on April 25th.

Ron Burbella




 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2023 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

Here is the link one should use when buying tickets for this concert:
https://my.austinsymphony.org/moviemusicmagic

I hope that this concert does well. That way, the Austin Symphony can book the ‘live-to-film’ concert of ‘Planet of the Apes’ (1968). It got only one performance and that is England. Here is some mention of that on this forum.
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110371&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2023 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   MichaelM   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 15, 2023 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I can only wish and hope to hear something like this, but...


How about Hot Water from OUTLAND, Ron?
Total fantasy....a 42 year old piece from a (sadly) forgotten (but excellent!) film??

I smell a thread, if we already don't have one!, of Most Wanted Goldsmith Concert Pieces.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2023 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

I can only wish and hope to hear something like this, but...


How about Hot Water from OUTLAND, Ron?
Total fantasy....a 42 year old piece from a (sadly) forgotten (but excellent!) film??

I smell a thread, if we already don't have one!, of Most Wanted Goldsmith Concert Pieces.


I'm happy to add a cue request, like Lost In The Wilds from The Edge (trying to choose something using a standard orchestra), but something tells me they will be choosing cues based on orchestral score availability and approval from whoever has to approve Goldsmith specific performances. Sure would be nice if there were interesting choices available, like that Legend David Newman performance that happened a few years ago...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2023 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

Some questions I think should be asked in a future episode of ‘The Goldsmith Odyssey’ podcast could be these:

I am wondering who within the Austin Symphony Association came up with the idea for this program?

Did the orchestra Board of Directors put up a fight in doing a film-music program devoted to a composer that is not John Williams? (The fact that the name of the program doesn’t have the composer’s name on it even though all the music is from that one composer can give off that kind of indication.)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2023 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sounds cool. There have been Goldsmith-only programs in Norway as well. Here's my review of a 2011 concert by the Norwegian Radio Orchestra that I attended (as run through Google Translate):

https://montages-no.translate.goog/2011/04/kringkastingsorkesteret-hyller-jerry-goldsmith/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2023 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)


I smell a thread, if we already don't have one!, of Most Wanted Goldsmith Concert Pieces.


"Beagles and Fox" from THE LIST OF ADRIAN MESSENGER.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2023 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

I'm posting this for posterity.



It would be interesting to see what the next 15 months brings.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2023 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Single show tickets are now on sale for anyone who wants to go.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2023 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Got my ticket. 10 months to go. I've been in touch with the conductor, Peter Bay, who has kindly let me know
the preliminary program (a work in progress right now).

FIRST HALF
TOTAL RECALL
THE BLUE MAX
MOTION PICTURE MEDLEY
GREMLINS

SECOND HALF
CAPRICORN ONE
RAMBO
ALIEN
STAR TREK: TMP

ENCORE
(Shhh. It's a secret.)

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2023 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

That's a pretty similar program to the Goldsmith concert I attended in 2011 (and which I linked to earlier). Suppose there's a limited set of concert arrangements to work from.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2023 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Got my ticket. 10 months to go. I've been in touch with the conductor, Peter Bay, who has kindly let me know
the preliminary program (a work in progress right now).

FIRST HALF
TOTAL RECALL
THE BLUE MAX
MOTION PICTURE MEDLEY
GREMLINS

SECOND HALF
CAPRICORN ONE
RAMBO
ALIEN
STAR TREK: TMP

ENCORE
(Shhh. It's a secret.)

Ron Burbella


For someone like me who grew up as a kid of the 90s and was never in the right place to go to a Goldsmith concert or make it to a locale where he conducted, this is going to be a SERIOUS treat. Thanks for the heads up.

 
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