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Is there a specific reason the Goldsmith estate rarely allows his music to be played in a concert setting?
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Is there a specific reason the Goldsmith estate rarely allows his music to be played in a concert setting? I don't know the specifics, but I am sure Jeff Bond and other Goldsmith scholars may know details. I think some pieces are available for rental to orchestra through JAKMS, but I don't know if that needs to be preapproved by whoever manages the Goldsmith estate. There are a number of concertized versions from his scores (the ones he used to conduct himself), but it's still a fragment of his incredibly vast output. In addition to that, some of that stuff was often reorchestrated, losing some of the more peculiar (and difficult to reproduce in a live setting) instrumentation choices. A lot of Goldsmith's music needs much more rehearsal work to be performed properly, as it's written in a very complex way. This is why perhaps Goldsmith is still incredibly underrated when it comes to concert performance of his film music. We need someone trusted to work on the manuscripts to create new performable suites that keep the integrity of the composition (much like Leigh Phillips is doing), and also a conductor that takes all that to heart and start to champion Goldsmith's repertoire to the audience (Dave Newman would be perfect for this job). This is crucial to keep his outstanding musical legacy alive beyond the film score nerds bubble.
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Apr 14, 2023 - 9:51 AM
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c8
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Is there a specific reason the Goldsmith estate rarely allows his music to be played in a concert setting? I had also assumed, perhaps incorrectly, it was a popularity or notoriety thing. Goldsmith is revered within our circles. But, if you go up and ask anyone on the streets who Jerry Goldsmith was, you'll get blank stares. If you ask who John Williams is, they know. Or at least enough to point to Star Wars. Had this just been another John Williams' greatest hits concert, I wouldn't have bothered posting about it since those are so common anymore. But because its so rare to have Jerry's music in concert, and even rarer to have an all Goldsmith program, I had to say something. In some ways the ASO is taking a risk, but what a wonderful risk it is.
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That sounds great. My local orchestra knows John Williams and John Williams when it comes to film music. I mean I appreciate those concerts, but I bet some of this stuff I've heard a dozen times live at this point.
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Apr 14, 2023 - 10:29 PM
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RonBurbella
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In one respect, this is most welcome news that al all-Goldsmith concert is scheduled in the USA 15 months from now. I've already scoped out the concert hall, the flight from New Jersey, and a nearby hotel. Not cheap, but do-able. We'll see what the future holds. In another respect, since I had attended a number of Goldsmith-conducted concerts in the past, I'm hoping that the longtime conductor (25+ years) Peter Bay will be able to choose some new selections that I haven't heard in a Goldsmith concert before. Since it's far enough in the future, maybe we could suggest some favorites to him. For myself, I've always wanted to hear "The Trees" (from MEDICINE MAN) live. I once asked Jerry after a concert why he never included that cue in his concerts. He said that he was reluctant to do it because of the difficulty incorporating the electronics in a live performance. Honestly, I could have lived without the electronics at a live concert. But that was Jerry, the perfectionist. If you had to choose JUST ONE never-performed cue, do y'all have any other "new" suggestions for conductor Bay? Remember, JUST ONE. I'm sure we each could all submit dozens of cues if that were allowed. Looking forward to seeing John Williams in NYC at Lincoln Center on April 25th. Ron Burbella
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