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 Posted:   May 27, 2023 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   raferjanders   (Member)

Another great release, Chris Malone really is a magician. Here's a couple of alternate covers ...



 
 Posted:   May 27, 2023 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Yavar, as to that review, I only really said it was well done because I enjoyed reading it. It kept me going throughout. And made some interesting points. It's the internet, there's a low bar. wink

But it also shows why we can all use an editor, who could point out that if everything is terrible then nothing, you know, could be good.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

Everything Basil wrote was what I was thinking when I saw this in my email today.

By coincidence, I heard Elmer conduct his Mockingbird suite this morning on our Classical music radio station. And thought then, "why didn't you just pay Aaron for his music, Elmer?!" when it went all Coplandeque. Except he always brought his own sensibility. Still, feeling tired of the usual cliches....

And frankly, a rape-revenge Western sure as shootin' ain't my cuppa. (Kinda wish it weren't anyone's.) It's the one Raquel Welch Western I haven't seen. (Though, to be honest, I've only seen Bandolero and 100 Rifles because of the Goldsmith scores - but actually enjoy them both on their own terms.)

But then y'all kept going on about it, so I thought I'd have a listen to the clips. And man, they are sweet indeed!

It may just be nostalgia calling, but hell, I'm even enjoying the harmonica, and I almost never do.

Hmmmm.....

By the way, there is a low saxophone or something chugging away in the main title that sounds like it's from early Michael Nyman Band - or vice versa. Kinda cool!


I love that sax! I asked Bobbengan about it in an earlier post as I suspected it might be John Scott. He asked John who said it was quite possible as he was doing a lot of session work around that time.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


By the way, who is Ken Throrne? Lol


The estate of Ken Thorne should sue Lokutus because this 'nobody' named 'ThRorne' is getting credit for Ken's music. smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I think that alternative poster does not represent the film very well at all.
Hannie looking like shes posing with the 3 brothers who rape her? Its a terrible picture and is the total opposite tone to the plot. Alright as a behind-the-scenes on-set picture and thats about it.
Im very happy with the existing poster (although even that has a bit of license).
But theres nothing wrong with blatant sexy.



I agree that it doesn't represent the film very well, but that was the poster that Paramount went with in the U.S. I guess they only had so many publicity photos to choose from.




The film’s production company, Curtwel Productions, was owned by Raquel Welch and her husband at the time, Patrick Curtis. Curtis met with Tony Tenser of Tigon British Film Productions with a view to obtaining funding for a movie starring Welch. Curtis proposed a horror movie or a Western. Tenser, who had always wanted to make a Western, picked that. Tigon put up 100% of the budget, while Curtwel put up their services—Welch as star and Curtis as producer. Neither Curtis nor Welch took a salary, instead taking profit participation. While, the film performed reasonably at the U.K. box office, it was a commercial disappointment in the U.S., grossing an average $4.5 million.

Robert Culp and Raquel Welch in HANNIE CAULDER



 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2023 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I've just finished playing this little gem. And it's lovely. The sound is excellent. Lots of detail comes through that I don't remember- punchy tympani, warm strings, percussion is nice( tambourine,castanets etc). It also plays well. Though I think the singer/ song is a bit naff. Though, a nice touch ( for me), they seemed to have left a slightly longer pause before it starts.smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2023 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Sounds good.
Mine will be awhile though, as it starts its journey in my Intrada basket until the next big order completes.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2023 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

It does sound good n clean. I won't be comparing it to the old one, though. I rarely do. In case there is something about the old un I like(!)- be it rare.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 12:08 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Marvelous melodic release that should not be missed. Thanks Quartet. More American produced westerns please.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm not really into western scores but this sound really nice and lyrical. As far as the poster, love it, but I had no idea the film was a rape revenge kinda film. So yes, the graphic is misleading! Then again the cover they went with is just as misleading if you get down to it. I was expecting a western Barbarella but instead I got a Sucker Punch!

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Marvelous melodic release that should not be missed. Thanks Quartet. More American produced westerns please.

Hannie Caulder is a British produced western (Tigon British Film Productions & Curtwel Productions). Probably that explains the presence of Christopher Lee, and a British composer like Ken Thorne scoring it:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannie_Caulder

I agree it’s a great release.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

If you are reading this Quartet ,I am sure MANY of us would love to see a release of John Addison’s score to the TV series CENTENNIAL .

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Most of he Addison tapes were donated to BYU some time back. A few years ago it was reported they want to much money to deal with them (I think one label head even said maybe they were difficult as well). So then you're stuck with what the studio has, if anything, on tapes. Which can mean inferior sources, missing reels, etc.



Now to Hannie.
I've been praising this score for years. A deeply personal favorite of mine and highly recommended. I posted in a pre-existing thread about what was missing, years ago:
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=65033&archive=0

Appears one thing is missing from the Quartet release -- that bizarre alternate opening cue I linked to.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Just got around to finally watching the film.
It's decent enough, but hardly a classic.
The tone of the film seemed all over the place.
The three good4nuthin brothers were too comical/farcical at times, especially the little gay one.
Their bad assness didn't jive with their 3 Stooges buffoonery.
And to stretch its barely there plot, there's a WTF shootout at Dracula's beach house, involving a posse of Mexicans, which is never really explained and is just plain stupid.
Or the guy in black who visits Drac and hangs out at deserted prisons, never saying a word. Explaining him would have been nice*.
But the music is great (easily the best thing about it) and Racquel looks great too.
I got a BIG Jerry Goldsmith vibe from ithe score a lot of times.
The orchestration and the classical construction (those tambourines) screamed JG to me.
The Rape especially sounded like a Goldsmith cue.
I will most certainly be adding the new CD to my collection.


* I assumed he's a rival bounty hunter, but it's never made clear.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Culp didn't stand out to you as a highlight, Kev? I agree the film is a mixed bag, but there are multiple strong elements in it which also feel fairly unique (such as Culp's character), which is why I consider it worth the watch.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Oh yeah, the Culp/Welch dynamic was well done and there was a lot I enjoyed about the film (I didn't mean for my capsule review to come off so harsh).
It was decent overall with the music being particularly good.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2023 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

There’s more music on the Quartet CD than the film itself.

The film seems to do a tiny bit of ‘tracking’ however most of what Ken Thorne recorded ended up where he intended.

I have no idea about the supposed ‘alternate’ or its provenance beyond what is shown in Steve Saragossi’s video. It’s certainly not on the tapes we worked with.

The main programme on the Quartet CD is stereo—for the first time—with a great CTS Bayswater sound.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2023 - 12:54 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)


* I assumed he's a rival bounty hunter, but it's never made clear.


I've seen him referred to as the ' deus ex machina '!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2023 - 1:21 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)


* I assumed he's a rival bounty hunter, but it's never made clear.


Yes, it isnt made clear (about Boyd) but that's what I always assumed to. His character was listed as The Preacher. Was there not a line from Culp about him when he visits the gunmaker Bailey (Lee) or was that my memory wrong.

Overall I thought the Clemens brothers worked. Strother was Strother, kinda reprising his dim wild bunch role.

Cheers for info Chris.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2023 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Your memory is fine, Bill.
Welch asks Culp who he is..."looks like a Preacher" and Culp says "he's not"
He gives his gun to Drac who says 2 weeks to which the silent one shakes his head and Drac says 1.
He then gives Welch (or Culp) a long stare before riding off.
Ambiguity, I suppose. They don't have it these days.

 
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