Based on what? I'm fairly sure the average consumer can spot something that looks and feels like a bootleg. Brittle jewel case and an inlay card that looks like it's been printed at home.
If they then need be sure they can simply look at the back of the CD itself. The markings are distinct and obvious.
They wouldn't think about it. I had CDRs for /years/ I had zero idea weren't pressed CDs because they sold them in the same stores as normal CDs, were sealed, have normal liner notes and standard art, usually on record labels that existed before CDRs were a thing (for instance one people might know here, Nimbus)
Just have a look at about 90% of the Customer Reviews on Amazon or eBay to give yourself an idea of the Great General Public Knowledge Capacity.
Or hell, look at actual reviewers, the likelihood of one mentioning the disc is a CDR is pretty low. (not never, it does happen, but it's not common, at least for classical music, from my observation)
They wouldn't think about it. I had CDRs for /years/ I had zero idea weren't pressed CDs because they sold them in the same stores as normal CDs, were sealed, have normal liner notes and standard art, usually on record labels that existed before CDRs were a thing (for instance one people might know here, Nimbus)
I genuinely find that really interesting (seriously, no sarcasm intended). I'd love to know which albums you have that are CD-Rs that look and feel like an original fully pressed CD.
I've never known any shop here in the UK to sell brand new CD-Rs.
My first purchased CD-R was Craig Armstrong's Incredible Hulk (2008) 2CD set (fantastic score by-the-way). I wasn't happy that it was a CD-R, but it was the only way to get a physical copy and it was an Amazon exclusive (they made it clear in the description that it was on 'CD-R on demand'). It was so clear (to me at least) the drop in quality of the jewel case, inlay booklet and the CDs themselves. The sound quality was perfect, but the physical package felt cheap (although the cost of the product wasn't!)
The quality of CD-Rs I've had since have been even worse. One in particular that comes to mind is Henry Jackman's Jumanji: The Next Level (2019). The jewel case is so flimsy you can actually press the front and back together! The inlay booklet has print that comes off in your hand and the staple holding it together looks like a 6 year old has done it. The cost of this product was more than a regular CD.
It's just not acceptable. Even if some people don't notice it does that make it right to produce something so poor?
I genuinely find that really interesting (seriously, no sarcasm intended). I'd love to know which albums you have that are CD-Rs that look and feel like an original fully pressed CD.
It was less 'they look and feel' like them and less that at a casual glace if you aren't think to notice there's no reason to even consider it. Again, they don't skimp on the art or notes.
I've never known any shop here in the UK to sell brand new CD-Rs. ?
You clearly never shopped classical music. For literal decades now (going back to 2001 I think) CDRs have been sold alongside normal CDs with zero indication they are such. Starting with the aformentioned Nimbus label and then later anything distributed by their distributor, Waystone (which includes labels like Lyria and Sterling). Or hell Sony Classical a few years back starting selling them for the US versions. This has been discussed many times on this board, and extends to a few of their classical releases, not just film score stuff. When you consider the low quality of many discs that ARE pressed CDs (often from tiny no-name labels) it's not exactly something you tend to look for.
It's just not acceptable. Even if some people don't notice it does that make it right to produce something so poor?
DynoDux, have you actually ordered one of these discs from BSX?
The person that started this noise hasn't chimed in. It's a simple question to answer. What two discs did you order?
Mike
Sorry for any confusion, I haven't ordered any of these CD-Rs from BSX.
My comments/opinions have just been based on the existence of commercial CD-Rs in general, something which isn't great for collectors or music preservation.
My main frustration is aimed at WaterTower and Sony Classical - huge corporations who can and should be providing a better service.
I appreciate BSX is a much smaller business (and I'm sure they're very nice people who are passionate about film music), but I'd rather they reconsider this CDR business model in favour of a better physical product (even if that means the price is higher).
