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 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The wonderful Jose Benitez made a public post in the John Barry Appreciation Society Facebook group in response to someone’s concerned post about when the new Barry recordings were being released. I’ll include the whole text here for folks but bold the most relevant part:

“Nope, the Cinecittà box-set wasn't a drawer to accelerate the release of titles that we had licensed with a close expiration date, but a project thought in this specific way from the beginning, planned before the pandemic, and with these titles specially selected for the program. We couldn't take a bunch of soundtracks and put them out in a box-set without first having everything contractualized for that specific format, otherwise, and at the low price we sell the box-set, it would have been a big waste of money for us. I'm sorry if that's what it sounded like, but it's not at all. The set in his own was one of the titles whose expiration was near, as also were the three Trovajoli, Hannie Caulder, Stridulum, Due Ragazzi Da Marcipiede, Le Secret, Requiem per un Gringo and Run For Your Wife. I think we've caught up now!

It so happens that our schedule between now and the end of 2023 includes another 15, maybe 16 titles, four of them are vinyl (three of them will also be relased in CD), the others are only CDs. Some are current films with release dates committed to coincide with the film release, we have a major one for December. There are a couple of cool Italian titles left which will be announced next week. On October 27th we'll release a set that includes two separate albums from a prestigious film composer, but they are not film music. It’s perhaps our most ambitious project to date and certainly the most expensive and the one that has been in the works the longest, although it is certainly not for all tastes and I doubt that it will be appreciated by film music fans, but sure for contemporany music lovers.

And also we have the end-of-the-year releases, which will be 3 or 4 titles. The Barry's album will come in 2023, not necessary in December, so be patient because there are only three months left this year.


Summarizing, too many work has come together at the same period. It happens that there are months when we have nothing to release because licenses and approvals are delayed or in limbo, and other times everything comes at the same time without the possibility of delaying them due to commitments. Crazy! Thanks to all for your patience and for being there!”

I for one am very excited to discover what they have in store for us…

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

"There are a couple of cool Italian titles left which will be announced next week"!

I hope the end-of-year releases include Giulietta degli Spiriti, or perhaps even older Fellini scores.

Surprised that Cinecittà box-set was planned already in 2019, and wonder what that means for Volume 2.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Quartet is all around a super label. Terrific releases, and excellent service when you order from them directly.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Yavar, thank you for posting this.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

You’re welcome. Agree with all the praise for Quartet!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Hitch22   (Member)

Oh boy, are we in for a treat! And their most ambitious / expensive project to date... that sounds very exciting!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Quartet has evolved into one of the most important filmmusic lables.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

They have been on a winning streak every year.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

And what's coming could be anything, which is nice.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

I must say QUARTET RECORDS continues to surprise!

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Always excited to see what Quartet has coming out. With relatively few new scores coming out on CD, I'm always thrilled that there are overseas labels like Quartet, Music Box and Rambling (not to mention the U.S. soundtrack labels) to help keep my bank account dry.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Nothing on my wish list.

Considering Jose said 15-16 titles and they certainly aren’t all accounted for by his other words, I don’t see how you could know this…

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)


Yavar, perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem. I specified the descriptions which ARE enough that I would have no interest (which could add up to 12 titles, who knows). I excluded the 3-4 wild cards - that's what "except maybe" means. I was also responding to a specific comment by someone else. Cherry picking my post to create a meaning I never said is really annoying and tiresome to respond to, which is why I usually ignore your posts.


That is a weirdly confrontational response. There is literally no information on what are these scores.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2023 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I hope the end-of-year releases include Giulietta degli Spiriti.

Sadly — VERY sadly — Jose has already confirmed that since the Cam-Sugar deal with Decca happened, it is now not possible for Quartet to do this title.

Unless something has changed since he said that.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2023 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Sadly — VERY sadly — Jose has already confirmed that since the Cam-Sugar deal with Decca happened, it is now not possible for Quartet to do this title.
Unless something has changed since he said that.

Unfortunately, this concerns not only the Rota title GIULIETTA DEGLI SPIRITI, but all titles from the huge former CAM catalogue. Sugar doesn´t license those titles to CD labels anymore. It is now rather worse than ever. I don´t know how long their contract with UMG/Decca will run, but probably for another 2 or 3 years. And it seems that as long as that contract is valid, nothing is possible for anyone else.
That´s the reason why concerning older Italian soundtracks now almost only titles from the RCA, General Music, Beat or Cinevox catalogue get released. Maybe Quartet can also get into Bruno Nicolai´s Edipan catalogue? Lets see which Italian titles will appear next week.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2023 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I hope the end-of-year releases include Giulietta degli Spiriti.

Sadly — VERY sadly — Jose has already confirmed that since the Cam-Sugar deal with Decca happened, it is now not possible for Quartet to do this title.

Unless something has changed since he said that.

Cheers


Thanks, I didn't know Quartet had responded to this request.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2023 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I love the Cam release of Juliet of the Spirits, but Quartet has done such lavish and meticulous work on the other Rota/Fellini works that it is a shame that they will not be able to do the same for this score. Still, I'm grateful that they have done so many.

As much as I love the Barry/Bonds, the Rota-Fellini body of work is tops for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2023 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Oh boy, are we in for a treat! And their most ambitious / expensive project to date... that sounds very exciting!

'tis indeed. My mind is churning with the possibilities. The 'not-for-all-tastes' descriptor leads me to think that the 2 discs will be dissonant/atonal concert works by a composer we associate first with film music.
1st thought was Luis de Pablo - but then I figure it's likely someone else since de Pablo's film music has never been on soundtracks.
A 'prestigious' film composer who wrote a significant body of 'modern' music is Ennio Morricone, so I think he is most probable. Still, I rather hope the composer could also be Alex North or Leonard Rosenman.
North wrote a lot of concert works during the 1940s & '30s - only about 2 of them have been recorded. These early North works might be more jazzy than avant-garde, though. Rosenman is probably more of an acquired taste than Morricone; Leonard had written concert works (such as a violin concerto) prior to East of Eden and much more afterwards.

There are, of course, many other composers who wrote simultaneously for cinema and concert hall (Alwyn, Takemitsu, etc.), but given Quartet's past track record on new recordings of Herrmann film scores perhaps this set will be Herrmann's concert works?

I hope, though, that this will be music never-before recorded. In recent years, I've learned that Franco Mannino wrote 12 symphonies! And that Carlo Savina wrote an opera before his association with cinema. Humphrey Searle wrote a couple of operas, too, that have never been recorded (to my knowledge) ... one's thoughts could reel with the possibilities. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2023 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

The 'not-for-all-tastes' descriptor leads me to think that the 2 discs will be dissonant/atonal concert works by a composer we associate first with film music.

'not-for-all-tastes' could also be opera or songs. With that said, I'm not sure it would make sense to record an opera for CD only with no live presentations. I'm also not sure many top composers have written popular songs. Most expensive suggests it is not (experimental) chamber music or musique concrete, but rather something fully orchestral, unless it is expensive because the soloists are famous.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2023 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yavar, perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem.

Yeah, strangely hostile considering what I wrote. But I think you had trouble comprehending what Jose said, so I'll do my best to make it clearer for you.

I specified the descriptions which ARE enough that I would have no interest (which could add up to 12 titles, who knows). I excluded the 3-4 wild cards - that's what "except maybe" means. I was also responding to a specific comment by someone else. Cherry picking my post to create a meaning I never said is really annoying and tiresome to respond to, which is why I usually ignore your posts.

I don't see how I cherry picked anything. I simply didn't feel the need to quote your entire post, just your attitude that there was nothing that would interest you (aside from possibly those 3-4 end of year titles, right?) ...which I found strange, since we don't know enough for anyone to make that assessment.

So yeah, here's the actual math (and I'm about 99% sure "titles" = "releases"):

15-16 titles by end of year, minus the 3-4 "wild cards" as you put them (i.e. final December batch) = 12 remaining titles before then

Of those 12 remaining titles, "a couple" are "cool Italian titles" which are going to be released "next week" (and presumably you're saying you're not interested in Italian titles). So that leaves 10. Then there's "a set that includes two separate albums from a prestigious film composer, but they are not film music" (presumably you're saying you're not interested in non-film music). I could be wrong but I *think* this set counts as a single "title". So that leaves us with 9. The re-recorded Barry album will similarly be multiple (very short) scores represented, but I think also counts as a single "title" (i.e. release... it would be really weird if Jose was thinking this counted as four "titles" on a 1-2 CD album). That leaves us with 8. One of those 8 is LP only of course -- presumably you're not interested in LPs, so that leaves 7. Now we get to the hard part: "Some are current films with release dates committed to coincide with the film release, we have a major one for December." -- presumably you're not interested in any scores for current films, but we have no idea how many "some" is. I would be beyond shocked if it was 7 titles though. I'm thinking it's probably 3 titles including that "major one", 4 tops.

That still leaves us with *another* 3-4 totally unknown titles remaining *besides* the 3-4 end of year "wild cards" which you already admit you might be interested in (remember those were subtracted at the beginning). Apart from three of those being released concurrently on LP as well as CD, we know nothing about these titles. They could be by any composer from probably any era. So now I've shown my thinking. I wasn't attacking you; all I wondered was how you could *know* there was nothing else for you besides the 3-4 end of year "wild cards", when there were *so many* releases Jose claims are coming by the end of 2023.

Yavar

 
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