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 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Discuss.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

yes

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

Always the pro, Goldsmith gave it his best effort.

But a "masterpiece"? On the level of Patton, Chinatown, Star Trek TMP? I don't think so. I'd place M&DSTW on the level of Link or The Lonely Guy.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

I would say no. DENNIS THE MENACE and the Joe Dante scores are much better examples of wacky Goldsmith. Truly puzzling how he ended up on this film.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I really like it. I think it's much better than his SUPERGIRL which is a score I do not like.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

While it's enjoyable and a fun score, it's still mid-tier Goldsmith and not a masterpiece. It makes for a fun companion listen with Gremlins 2 and is a colorful orchestral romp during that first half of the 1990's when he was scoring mostly dramas, thrillers and romantic comedies.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

It might have been a masterpiece if it had been written by someone less talented.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

It might have been a masterpiece if it had been written by someone less talented.

Or, perhaps, written after the year 2000....

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I really like it. I think it's much better than his SUPERGIRL which is a score I do not like.

Same here, buddy, same here. I *do* very much consider this wonderful score to be "unsung", and I love it more than many more "great and famous" Goldsmith scores. To me it is an "honorary Dante" score... and I like it better than half of Jerry's scores for Dante! It's so full of life and creativity and silliness. One of Jerry's most delightful and unique scores. I imagine a great many people would reassess it if it ever got a complete Deluxe Edition.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

it is rampant wacky fun, and the film itself is really amazingly odd and nutty for a big studio film, it would never get made now.
Thor 15, Spiderman 26, Batman 92 all have a better chance of getting made, sad.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

it is rampant wacky fun

Exactly why I think of it as "honorary Dante", even if in reality its sound world isn't quite the same.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Discuss.

First, can we retire "masterpiece" from common parlance? And second, it's undeniably a fun score, performed marvellously by the NPO, but falls under the radar because it's attached to a film that few people saw and left no mark in popular culture.

No, it's not better than his Supergirl.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Nah, I never upgraded from the $1 cassette I bought 15 years ago.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

First, can we retire "masterpiece" from common parlance? And second, it's undeniably a fun score, performed marvellously by the NPO, but falls under the radar because it's attached to a film that few people saw and left no mark in popular culture.

No, it's not better than his Supergirl.


Taste is a funny thing and I respect yours a lot my friend. smile

But like henry, I enjoy (and therefore listen to) Mom and Dad Save the World a whole lot more than Supergirl. Maybe a new and improved edition of Supergirl will warm me up to it, but I already love the other score.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Taste is a funny thing…

Of course; to each to their own. Absolutely.

But take a step back and look upon the two scores from a more objective vantage and the scope and architecture of Goldsmith's compositions for Supergirl soar far and above that of his Mom and Dad, which itself boasts some truly splendid writing.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Why is SUPERGIRL even the measuring stick by which we judge MOM AND DAD SAVE THE WORLD? I mean, I also really like SUPERGIRL but other then both being Sci-Fi genre movies, why are we comparing them? I could just as easily say that THE CHALLENGE is the superior score to MOM AND DAD SAVE THE WORLD. but the former is a Top 10 Goldsmith score for me anyway.

The Joe Dante film score comparison is much more apt. And for its heavy synth quotient and use of very large orchestra/chorus, SUPERGIRL is more akin to LEGEND.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Why is SUPERGIRL even the measuring stick by which we judge MOM AND DAD SAVE THE WORLD? I mean, I also really like SUPERGIRL but other then both being Sci-Fi genre movies, why are we comparing them? I could just as easily say that THE CHALLENGE is the superior score to MOM AND DAD SAVE THE WORLD. but the former is a Top 10 Goldsmith score for me anyway.

The Joe Dante film score comparison is much more apt. And for its heavy synth quotient and use of very large orchestra/chorus, SUPERGIRL is more akin to LEGEND.


I just mentioned SUPERGIRL because it's one of the few Goldsmith scores I don't like.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Well, you all have made me realize I haven't listened to this in 20, 25 years. Sheesh, how does that happen?

And I never uploaded it to Apple Music, with the other 175 albums of his I've put there.

So I guess based on this, I don't think it's an unsung masterpiece. But it's definitely unsung by me.

(Which means I gotta dig it out and give it another listen, though I do remember not loving it, except maybe the Tod the Destroyer bit. I was getting tired of the comedy stylings.)

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Oh wow that's a long time. Please do relisten and share your thoughts afterwards! I wouldn't be at all surprised if it rose in your estimation; there's a lot to love about it (including a stellar orchestral performance by the National Philharmonic).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Oh wow that's a long time. Please do relisten and share your thoughts afterwards! I wouldn't be at all surprised if it rose in your estimation; there's a lot to love about it (including a stellar orchestral performance by the National Philharmonic).

Yavar


That's it. For me, the score is at the tail end of 80s Goldsmith, with a surprising amount of those earlier stylings. The cues are more complex than what would first seem, owing probably to the lighthearted nature of the film itself. There is much more to love than first meets the eye.

I'm confident that an expanded edition would go a long way to showcase this underrated work.

 
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