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 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2023/11/29/henry-kissinger-dead-obituary/

I know he was a controversial and polarizing figure, so I am not posting this here to stir the pot. No need to praise or condemn Kissinger's influence in his long career and influence on world politics here, as there are many places where this can be discussed. But whatever one may think of him, he was no doubt among the more influential figures of the 20th century. May he rest in peace.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

He made it past 100 (despite having coronary bypass surgery at the age of 58) & still had all his marbles at the end. I'd take that.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

"Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough."

~Noah Cross (John Huston) in "Chinatown" (1974)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

"Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough."

~Noah Cross (John Huston) in "Chinatown" (1974)


Yup, I think even Keith Richards is respectable these days.

He was being talked about on the radio & someone told the story of his brother, who had lost that German accent & just sounded American. He was asked why Henry still had that thick European accent, & he answered, oh that's because Henry never listens to what anyone says.

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Certainly a legend.
He served 12 presidents.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Interesting you should say that as I was recently having a discussion with someone about Averell Harriman, one of those guys who was a go-to for several presidents on the foreign affairs front going way back. Clark Clifford also comes to mind. So yes, HK joins esteemed company.

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

So much fly paper to Jill St. John, he was once.

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Cue Bob DiMucci for a filmography! smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I wonder how many actors have played him?
Must be a few, id imagine.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 11:49 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I wonder how many actors have played him?
Must be a few, id imagine.


That's a good question. Someone should make a montage of the real, late Kissinger in the middle and all the actors who've portrayed him framed around.

100 years, what amazing innings!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Although it is widely believed that Peter Sellers’ portrayal of “Dr. Strangelove” was based on Henry Kissinger, Kissinger was not a well-known figure at the time of the 1964 film’s release. According to Sellers, the character was based upon rocket scientist Wernher von Braun.

Peter Sellers as DR. STRANGELOVE



By 1976, Kissinger was widely known, and Byron Kane, who played the “Secretary of State” in Sellers’ film THE PINK PANTHER STRIKES AGAIN, was made up to look like Kissinger.

Byron Kane as the “Secretary of State” in THE PINK PANTHER STRIKES AGAIN

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Always thought Sellers was imitating Dudley Do-Right's voice.

I wonder how many actors have played him?
Must be a few, id imagine.


I remember a Saturday Night Live skit that had famous people with their mothers being interviewed. It was a riot. Richard Dreyfus played Kissinger, can't recall who played the Mom.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)


He didn’t start the Vietnam War he only tried to end it. That was the objective of both parties at the time. With all the generals running around I doubt it was his idea to bomb Cambodia.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

He showed up in Marvel Comics issues a few times.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

In the 1976 film TUNNELVISION, a spoof of television, Roger Bowen played Henry Kissinger.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

In WATCHMEN as portrayed by Frank Novak.



Kinda fun to see all these Kissinger portrayals.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

He didn’t start the Vietnam War he only tried to end it. That was the objective of both parties at the time. With all the generals running around I doubt it was his idea to bomb Cambodia.

Yup, the Americans went into there under (whisper it) John F Kennedy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

BORN AGAIN told the story of Charles Colson (Dean Jones), who was involved in the infamous Watergate scandal that brought down the administration of former President Richard Nixon. Colson was sentenced to prison for the crimes he committed in the name of "national security", and while in prison he underwent a religious conversion. Peter Jurasik played Henry Kissinger in the 1978 film.

Peter Jurasik (far left) as Henry Kissinger in BORN AGAIN

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

He didn’t start the Vietnam War he only tried to end it. That was the objective of both parties at the time. With all the generals running around I doubt it was his idea to bomb Cambodia.

Yup, the Americans went into there under (whisper it) John F Kennedy.


It wasn't President Kennedy who sent thousands of troops into Vietnam though. "Military Advisors" who he was more likely to reduce than increase. He told Cronkite that. Ending a war by escalating bombing of civilians in Cambodia is a heck of a stretch. And let's not forget Kissinger's support in overthrowing elected governments in Chile and Argentina.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

He didn’t start the Vietnam War he only tried to end it. That was the objective of both parties at the time. With all the generals running around I doubt it was his idea to bomb Cambodia.

Yup, the Americans went into there under (whisper it) John F Kennedy.


It wasn't President Kennedy who sent thousands of troops into Vietnam though. "Military Advisors" who he was more likely to reduce than increase. He told Cronkite that. Ending a war by escalating bombing of civilians in Cambodia is a heck of a stretch. And let's not forget Kissinger's support in overthrowing elected governments in Chile and Argentina.


There was a great doc on TV about the life of Gore Vidal (narrated by himself)* & in it, Mr Vidal said that he thought Kennedy would have escalated America’s involvement in Vietnam, but we’ll never know.

*”The United States Of Amnesia” - it’s on YouTube, about 25 minutes in.

 
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