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I remember vividly--in my young adulthood--frequenting drive-in theatres with a girl who shared my love of truly awful horror films. Basket Case was the best. The first Mad Max threw us for a loop--it was actually good! We also saw Deadly Blessing, The Hand, and probably a couple of others scored by Horner. With each score he seemed to be imitating a different aspect of Goldsmith. During the same period, we also saw, in theatres, ST2, Gorky Park, Something Wicked, 48 Hours, and Brainstorm.
The weird thing is that initially I really liked Horner, but somewhere along the way in the late eighties I just lost interest. Just opened the door and pushed him out. Can't even say why. Don't even have a good reason.
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I wish I could see TWOK theatrical release again on the big screen but they only show the DC nowadays.
Hey buddy! You should see TWOK in the theater, the DC is only like an extra minute it doesn’t change it much. I will try to see TSFS.
It plays fairly regularly in my area oddly enough. The theatrical cut was run twice but it is mostly the DC. Honestly, I never understood Meyer's "director's cuts." They add almost nothing positive to the films, and most of the cuts made were rightly chosen. And with Star Trek II, Meyer deleted the dialog for the scene of Kirk and Spock crawling through an access hatch: "That young man, he's my son!" to which Spock replied "faaaascinating."
It was always awful. The dialog is terrible, the delivery is bad, and it is timed so it's uttered when Nimoy actually enters frame. So great, the lines were cut...but the shot remains. And it's now pointless. It ruins the flow of the scene and the music needed to be edited to fit.
What was once a perfect film is now less so because these additions do nothing but disrupt flow, add a few unnecessary lines and substitute good line deliveries for poor. Yet the DC keeps getting more "air time." I wanted to see Meyer's TRUE directors cut: the one without Spock's tube on Genesis, the original music and the missing scenes from the workprints.
And don't get me started on Star Trek 6 and the added scenes there. Oy.
Luckily, Star Trek III suffers no such Director's Cut because Nimoy considered the theatrical version the one he wanted us to see. God bless him, it's a beautiful film and a gorgeous score. I would love to see it in the theater again.
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I wish I could see TWOK theatrical release again on the big screen but they only show the DC nowadays.
Hey buddy! You should see TWOK in the theater, the DC is only like an extra minute it doesn’t change it much. I will try to see TSFS.
It plays fairly regularly in my area oddly enough. The theatrical cut was run twice but it is mostly the DC. Honestly, I never understood Meyer's "director's cuts." They add almost nothing positive to the films, and most of the cuts made were rightly chosen. And with Star Trek II, Meyer deleted the dialog for the scene of Kirk and Spock crawling through an access hatch: "That young man, he's my son!" to which Spock replied "faaaascinating."
It was always awful. The dialog is terrible, the delivery is bad, and it is timed so it's uttered when Nimoy actually enters frame. So great, the lines were cut...but the shot remains. And it's now pointless. It ruins the flow of the scene and the music needed to be edited to fit.
Totally agree, it ruins the flow of scenes and puts the music on an awful loop.
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I still remember the thrill of seeing Star Trek II in the cinema, back in 1982.
I never really cared for Star Trek III, or, to be honest, with it's Dallas-esque backtracking on the bravest dramatic decision that Star Trek could make, nor any of the subsequent Star Trek movies.
However, I loved the original series — well, most of the original series, and certainly the ideas and style of it — and Star Trek: The Motion Picture and Star Trek II were an amazing theatrical one-two punch.
But as much as I loved Star Trek to that point, I honestly wish they'd finished it there and then with Spock's death, rather than continuously trying to get wring one more wash out of an increasingly saggy cloth.
Cheers
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I never really cared for Star Trek III, or, to be honest, with it's Dallas-esque backtracking on the bravest dramatic decision that Star Trek could make...
Agreed, although the right decision as far as Im concerned would have been to NOT kill Spock in the first place. By doing so, Hollywood unleashed one of their laziest gimmicks for the sake of cash. Death, something deeply serious and solemn, ceased to exist and thus cheapened the very idea to the point irrelevance.
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