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 Posted:   Jun 13, 2024 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Grendel25   (Member)

https://www.slashfilm.com/1598470/where-have-memorable-movie-themes-gone-hollywood-composers-speak-out/

I find most of the scores I listen to have strong themes. Scores with them are getting few and far between these days and they tend to be sequels. Not really sure I listen to too many scores without themes.

My usual go to for scores with themes that I tend to listen to more than others as they remind me of the movie and I like the emotional swell from them.

Batman '89
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Days of Thunder
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
Home Alone
The Rocketeer
Far and Away
How to Train Your Dragon
Star Wars
Superman

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2024 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Play Goldsmith's THE MUMMY.....as I did today.

And I nearly wept hearing 'The Caravan' on a Saturday afternoon, Summer 99, hearing those glorious 3mins of needless camel riding....set to Goldsmith's glorious music.

I still hear those tambourines, echoing in DTS, and those incredible fr.horns blaring, proper, in my theater (long gone, strip mall now).


That film is junk, we know that. Entertaining, but junk. Yet, that experience of trekking to a downtown theater in May of 99 (right?) on a Saturday, and just being bowled over by Goldsmith in DTS....its a beautiful memory.

Themes & intelligence are anathema now, best of luck to you. Sound design and lazy repetitive us in.
Here come the "seek foreign films out" brigade.

At risk of being (insert PC phrase here), I understand what you are asking.

Large scale & scope, epic films with memorable thematic scores that make you wanna run to the record store and buy the album.
Not some obscure Scandanavian film you may or may not be able to see, nor the score to find.

These days you speak of are well over my friend. Likely in our lifetime....

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2024 - 12:17 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

'Far, far away' . Altogether now.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2024 - 1:21 AM   
 By:   Kentishsax   (Member)

Play Goldsmith's THE MUMMY.....as I did today. And I nearly wept hearing 'The Caravan' on a Saturday afternoon, Summer 99, hearing those glorious 3mins of needless camel riding....set to Goldsmith's glorious music. I still hear those tambourines, echoing in DTS, and those incredible fr.horns blaring, proper, in my theater (long gone, strip mall now). That film is junk, we know that. Entertaining, but junk.

Some UK cinemas are re-releasing films from 1999 this year, including The Mummy!

Personally, I don't think it's junk, it's entertaining, has a witty script, has one of Jerry's last great scores and is huge fun. I remember comparing it and saying I preferred it to the mock seriousness and tedium of the first Bored (sorry, Lord) of the Rings films back in the day - and being lambasted by Rings fanboys.

I do enjoy Alan Silvestri's sequel score a lot, btw, it's just as strong as Jerry's. I can't recall Randy's 3 score, as only seen the second sequel once and only on DVD, not at te cinema - I'll have to give it another viewing. Actually, I don't think I've watched any of the three Mummy films for a good 16 years.







 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2024 - 1:47 AM   
 By:   Kentishsax   (Member)

Off to see Star Trek III in its re-release in the cinema tonight (only showing in one cinema, in another town near me). My fave of all the Trek films and my second fave trek score (the first being Lenny Rosenman's). Be good to hear a great score in the cinema again and one by James Horner. He took his B theme from Trek II and used it as the main theme for III, gave us a Klingon theme to rival Jerry's and the long-limbed music for the voyage to Vulcan and the fal tor pan ritual were spot on. James himself said Trek III was where he started writing through scenes, not hitting every point and having longer cues.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2024 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I think part of this is the changing role of the soundtrack album.

If you were a Bond fan in 1965 and you'd just seen Thunderball, how do you take a piece of the film home with you?

You buy the picture book and the soundtrack album.

That made the soundtrack album more important for big films, making the musicality of the score more important too.

Plus, in the days before social media, radio was important for marketing, which also made themes and songs important.

WE love thematic scores because, well, we love them, but they were once an important commercial and aesthetic choice too.

They were once an important means for film companies to extend their engagement with the audience.

Now, nobody needs the soundtrack album to take the film home. Radio isn't the primary marketing tool it once was. There are new ways for film companies to extend their engagement with the audience.

So, the commercial demands on what film music should be have changed.

And to seemingly "tame" the art form, it is driven into genericness.

I do not believe today's composers are less capable. They're making careers in a less "musicality" friendly media industry.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2024 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   Kentishsax   (Member)

That made the soundtrack album more important for big films, making the musicality of the score more important too... So, the commercial demands on what film music should be have changed... And to seemingly "tame" the art form, it is driven into genericness... I do not believe today's composers are less capable. They're making careers in a less "musicality" friendly media industry. Cheers

As a musician and playing a solo instrument, I love melody, always have done. A melody for me is #1, not just in film music but in music in general. That's personally why I miss a well written theme, a tune one can hang their hat on or play on their musical instrument.

 
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