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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: Hook (Williams) La-La Land 2 CD vs 3 CD?     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jul 12, 2024 - 8:54 AM     By:   faceless007   (Member) I was trying to find details on the differences between the 2012 2 CD release and the more recent 3 CD "Ultimate" edition. Looking at the respective track listings: https://www.discogs.com/release/3519470-John-Williams-Hook-Expanded-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack https://www.discogs.com/release/29005807-John-Williams-Hook-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack-The-Ultimate-Edition It looks like there's a fair amount of difference in track names and lengths: Many of the tracks in the middle on disc 1 have different lengths than what it seems like they might correspond to, eg. "8: Hook Napped" and "9: A Portrait of Wendy" on the 2 CD vs "Forgotten How to Fly" and "The Stories Are True" on the 3 CD are in about the same order? Also the 2 CD has 3 tracks for the climax "The Ultimate War" that add up to more than 17 minutes, but the 3 CD has one track "The Ultimate War" at 7:54. I had just assumed the 3 CD would have everything on the 2 CD and more, but now I'm wondering if and how much music from the 2 CD is not represented on the 3 CD. I'm not a total completist but if there's a substantial amount missing I might want to. Anyone have any details on this?    Posted:   Jul 12, 2024 - 9:07 AM     By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member) The 3-CD set has every bit of score recorded for the film, nothing is missing. The older 2-CD set retained some OST combos and invented some track names but there's nothing on that set that isn't on the 3-CD.    Posted:   Jul 12, 2024 - 9:07 AM     By:   pete   (Member) My understanding is that the phrase "The Ultimate Edition" is not hyperbole.    Posted:   Jul 12, 2024 - 9:15 AM     By:   Spymaster   (Member) The 2CD was a bit of a mess IMHO with sources, and therefore quality, shifting all over the place, sometimes in the middle of a track! Go with the 3CD. An easy recommendation!    Posted:   Jul 12, 2024 - 1:20 PM     By:   Roy Donga   (Member) Can I recommend the podcast…. https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2023/12/27/hook-podcast-special/ It’s a fascinating story well worth listening to    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 2:00 AM     By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member) There is no advantage to the 2CD set — it was the best they could do with what they had at the time. The 3CD set is what you want/need. Everything is there, and it sounds great.    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 3:31 AM     By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member) The only thing that’s actually missing from the 3 CD set is the film version of the End Credits (the 3 CD uses Williams’ intended medley with the Exit Music following the Lost Boys Chase excerpt).    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 5:12 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) I'm happy with the 2 CD set.    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 3:01 PM     By:   Wedge   (Member) The only thing that’s actually missing from the 3 CD set is the film version of the End Credits (the 3 CD uses Williams’ intended medley with the Exit Music following the Lost Boys Chase excerpt). Just to reiterate (in case anyone reading this is not aware), every note of the "film version" of the End Credits is present on the 3-CD set, since the film cut was editorially stitched together from other cues. All unique music that was on the 1-CD or 2-CD releases is present in some form on the 3-CD version -- and much more besides!    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 3:32 PM     By:   BTTFFan   (Member) The only thing the 3 CD set is missing is the beautiful Struzan cover art.    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 3:51 PM     By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member) There is no advantage to the 2CD set — it was the best they could do with what they had at the time. The 3CD set is what you want/need. Everything is there, and it sounds great. Except for "You Are The Pan" as assembled for the Original Soundtrack Album and the 2CD set. Yes, you do have the individual cues on the 3CD set, but not the fully flowing and assembled "OST" cue, which is a pity, because Williams was right to combine those two into one cue, as the musical flow make perfect sense. So that's the one thing I find missing from the 3CD set (which is no big deal for me, because I have both prior releases of the score).    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 4:39 PM     By:   Traveling Matt   (Member) Except for "You Are The Pan" as assembled for the Original Soundtrack Album and the 2CD set. Yes, you do have the individual cues on the 3CD set, but not the fully flowing and assembled "OST" cue, which is a pity, because Williams was right to combine those two into one cue, as the musical flow make perfect sense. So that's the one thing I find missing from the 3CD set (which is no big deal for me, because I have both prior releases of the score). You Are The Pan OST is very simple to assemble, even if one is an Audacity beginner. And you'd have it in full Matessino fidelity too.    Posted:   Jul 13, 2024 - 9:42 PM     By:   johnonymous86   (Member) The only thing the 3 CD set is missing is the beautiful Struzan cover art. 100%!    Posted:   Jul 14, 2024 - 12:08 AM     By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member) You Are The Pan OST is very simple to assemble, even if one is an Audacity beginner. And you'd have it in full Matessino fidelity too. True, easy to do if one is so inclined. But not everyone is setup to do audio editing or playing files, many people here still play CDs.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2024 - 2:52 AM     By:   panavision   (Member) Except for "You Are The Pan" as assembled for the Original Soundtrack Album and the 2CD set. Yes, you do have the individual cues on the 3CD set, but not the fully flowing and assembled "OST" cue, which is a pity, because Williams was right to combine those two into one cue, as the musical flow make perfect sense. So that's the one thing I find missing from the 3CD set (which is no big deal for me, because I have both prior releases of the score). You Are The Pan OST is very simple to assemble, even if one is an Audacity beginner. And you'd have it in full Matessino fidelity too. What are the tracks? I love that album cue.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2024 - 3:03 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) That's the only thing I really missed from this set. A nice, great sounding edition of the You Are The Pan track from the old album. I would have preferred it over some of the pirate source cues, which I'll never listen to again. I don't do 'after the fact' editing on CDs that I buy, beyond a simple whittling of certain tracks when transferring to my digital platforms. But it ain't the end of the world and I'm sure it will be released again at some point down the line. Oh and yeah, nothing beats that 2CD set cover art.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2024 - 3:03 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) That's the only thing I really missed from this set. A nice, great sounding edition of the You Are The Pan track from the old album. I would have preferred it over some of the pirate source cues, which I'll never listen to again. I don't do 'after the fact' editing on CDs that I buy, beyond a simple whittling of certain tracks when transferring to my digital platforms. But it ain't the end of the world and I'm sure it will be released again at some point down the line. Oh and yeah, nothing beats that 2CD set cover art.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2024 - 3:03 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) That's the only thing I really missed from this set. A nice, great sounding edition of the You Are The Pan track from the old album. I would have preferred it over some of the pirate source cues, which I'll never listen to again. I don't do 'after the fact' editing on CDs that I buy, beyond a simple whittling of certain tracks when transferring to my digital platforms. But it ain't the end of the world and I'm sure it will be released again at some point down the line. Oh and yeah, nothing beats that 2CD set cover art.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2024 - 3:08 AM     By:   Prince Damian   (Member) I'll say it for ya- whoopsie.    Posted:   Jul 14, 2024 - 4:02 AM     By:   JB Fan   (Member) Do we have usual google table, which compare all editions? They are really helpful, and could solve problem of "which edition is better"...     General Discussion: Hook (Williams) La-La Land 2 CD vs 3 CD?    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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