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I enjoy Beato's videos because of their deep musical content. He's not wrong about this either in terms of the impact this composer's music has had on the world.
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Machete don't click no links without context.
It's about John Williams[endspoiler]
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Williams knows how to write catchy melodies.
He does great with underscore, etc etc.
But his ultimate genius is that he understands how to write a memorable melody that feels more like a "song" in the traditional sense than just a "theme."
Very few film composers could double as song writers the way Williams could.
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I'm sure Rick Beato (who?) has his own solid arguments for why he thinks Williams is the "most well-known musical history in all of history", but I find the notion ludicrous and just that -- his own personal assessment.
Rick Beato is an accomplished musician whose channel has over four million subscribers. I'm surprised you weren't familiar with him.
Beato merely uses his daughter as a close-at-hand example -- an example of a much-wider phenomenon. Millions of people can identify John Williams' music.
Who at this point is unaware of Jaws, the original Star Wars movies, Close Encounters, Superman, Indiana Jones, E.T., Harry Potter, the Star Wars prequels, and the more recent Star Wars sequels? Those films are among the most enduring ever made -- plus they span nearly half a century.
It is no stretch to assert that John Williams' music is the most well-known. Yes, his popularity is tied to the success of those films, but that doesn't make the music any less well-known.
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Jul 26, 2024 - 10:10 AM
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Erik Woods
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Rick Beato is an accomplished musician whose channel has over four million subscribers. I'm surprised you weren't familiar with him.
Beato merely uses his daughter as a close-at-hand example -- an example of a much-wider phenomenon. Millions of people can identify John Williams' music.
Who at this point is unaware of Jaws, the original Star Wars movies, Close Encounters, Superman, Indiana Jones, E.T., Harry Potter, the Star Wars prequels, and the more recent Star Wars sequels? Those films are among the most enduring ever made -- plus they span nearly half a century.
It is no stretch to assert that John Williams' music is the most well-known. Yes, his popularity is tied to the success of those films, but that doesn't make the music any less well-known.
^THIS!^ ^ALL OF THIS!^
-Erik-
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^THIS!^ ^ALL OF THIS!^
-Erik-
Thank-you Erik! 
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Of course it's well-known. He's one of the most famous film composers in the world, and many of his compositions are world famous, even if people don't know who the composer behind them is. But it's such a long stretch from that to the wildly ludicrous claim that he's the most well-known musician who ever lived. Not even sure how one would properly assess that, even with every single research tool at one's disposal. Imagine all the research involved in pitting Mozart and Bach and Beethoven and Elvis and Beatles and Michael Jackson and Beyoncé up against each other, not to mention deciding on what criteria to use. Thus, it's better to avoid such bombastic claims altogether. But it's great click-bait, I suppose.
Rick Beato often uses hyperbole in the titles and descriptions of his videos (surely a click-bait technique), but he usually has strong arguments to back up his views. In this case, the point he's trying to make is that there are very few other composers in history to have the same track record of John Williams in terms of sheer amount of recognizable tunes that seeped into the public consciousness across multiple decades. The popularity of the films themselves certainly helped a lot in getting those tunes into the average person's mind, but it's unquestionable that they went beyond their purely filmic/functional nature and nowadays are part of a shared cultural knowledge, to the point that when one imagine themselves into some kind of "adventure situation" they often sing the Raiders March, much like Superman's theme has become the de facto tune associated to the character, and not just to Chris Reeve's impersonation. The same can be said of E.T., the Imperial March, the Jurassic Park theme, etc. They function as buttons to revive our cheerful memories of the films, but on the other hand they connect to something deeper in our souls. And that is a global phenomenon, even more than what pop music achieved. Certainly one could say that Mozart, The Beatles, or Michael Jackson are all strong contenders for being as well-known as JW, but the point Rick is stressing here is that JW's music has transcended several generations and reached out an impressive amount of people throughout the decades in a way that very, very few other musicians in history did.
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Personally, I saw this as his own way of paying a huge token of respect and admiration toward Maestro Williams.
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Jul 28, 2024 - 8:56 AM
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SchiffyM
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I'm sure Rick Beato (who?) has his own solid arguments for why he thinks Williams is the "most well-known musical history in all of history"
Well… yes he does. And it would only take you seven minutes to hear them. And then you could agree or disagree on merit.
Here's why I think it's not a bad argument at all. At my office, there are employees from 21 to 68, across many ethnicities and nationalities. At a holiday gathering at my in-laws, the ages range from 11 to 83 (though there's not a lot of racial diversity there!). In either place, if you tried to use a piece of music as a touchstone or a reference for a joke, you'd miss at least 20% of the people in the room with almost any choice – the Beatles, Taylor Swift, Kendrick Lamar, Frank Sinatra, Mozart… you name it. But if you play the main title from Star Wars or Jaws, every single one – grade schooler or retiree, Black or white, American or not – gets the reference.
I lose Beato when he gets to the Jurassic Park theme – famous, yes, but not known to everybody. But his point, which he acknowledges not everybody willl agree with, is not arrived at haphazardly.
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^THIS!^ ^ALL OF THIS!^
-Erik-
Thank-you Erik!
I whole heartedly concur with Erik. Thanks for your post Paul. Beato is one of the few YT personalities who actually has a deep knowledge of his field (music, in this case).
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There seems to be a running thread in the comments on that video that Beato is teeing up for an interview with Williams and this video (as well as his great video on the ET theme) are sort of an invitation to Williams to see if he would be interested in chatting.
Personally, I would love to see the Beato/Williams interview! Rick has a great ear for music, his interviews are always very much about the music and not about the hype surrounding the musician, and he just seems like he has a natural interviewing style that puts people at ease.
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