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 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

The other possibility that occurred to me is that maybe Music Box is buying copies as a customer rather than as a reseller, and then reselling them with a markup, like a private buyer buying copies to sell on eBay.

I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud.

But, yes, it's a little unfair on unaware shoppers to not be transparent about the 90-day embargo.

I noticed Ark Square is playing the same game: offering for sale, not mentioning the embargo.

Cheers


I mean, that's what they do with Varese discs is it not? Why would there be an embargo for those sites to sell them?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

An interesting observation!

If they buy as an individual buyer, if they theoretically receive the shipment after, say, two days, they can start selling and shipping to their customers as early as, say, October 13 (or generally cheat the 3-month embargo).

I'll have to look into it to see how MBR resolve it.


Who's cheating anything? If they buy from the 007 Store and then sell it that's no different, as someone mentioned, from someone selling on eBay (or Discogs, or Amazon.....or whatever)

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

Hmmm, a private "someone" is not the same as a company !
As far as I know the B.F.S. in Belgium has European exclusive distribution rights for LaLaLand releases and
007 store supplying MusicBox would violate that.
Also MusicBox would also go against LaLa's wishes and I don' think that they can simply ignore that !

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

You're right, but the question is, does the publisher care if, say, half a print run of an album is bought by a thousand people or one person or one company? I could bet that the publisher would prefer to sell everything at once in one transaction wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Well, one must presume the embargo was for some commercial reason.

If resellers are buying as customers to resell what they bought as customers rather than resellers, in other words, gaming the system to get round the embargo...

Then maybe whomever feels this embargo was necessary to protect their commercial interests will play a counter move.

However, like Adam said I'm sure those who put their money at risk to get this out want as much return as possible, as quickly as possible, and if that's what happens, good for them.

All I care about is that it does well. The commercial shenanigans, others can worry about.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

And that's for sure, you're right.

Which is why I'm curious about the situation as to how soon MBR will start sending this album.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Part of the blame lies with customers who browse eBay and jump on an overpriced CD without shopping the Internet. Titles still for sale at La La Land Records are listed for ridiculous prices on eBay, often with claims that the CD is rare and hard to find.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

An album is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Ignorance does not absolve one from thinking, so if someone wants to overpay, that's their business and their wallet, and they should be able to do so.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)


Part of the blame lies with customers who browse eBay and jump on an overpriced CD without shopping the Internet. Titles still for sale at La La Land Records are listed for ridiculous prices on eBay, often with claims that the CD is rare and hard to find.

Old situation. I helped my friend one time. He wanted Omen deluxe (at that time it was in stock). But he said that Amazon price (~30$ or eo) was bit high for him. I gave him link to Varese - about 20$ or so, as it was sale or maybe temporary price reducing... I don't know, if he got it, but that's how it happened - most people prefer searching ebay or Amazon and pay more than they can if they placed order directly or at special shops like SAE or Movie Music frown

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

You cannot - and neither can the potential seller - be held responsible for someone's ignorance and lack of thinking, if that person cannot use Google....

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Doubtful as there's not much to say about this. The first I heard of it happening was March 2024 (for you unapologetic chronology buffs, that's after January 2024).

So, has that idiotic pants shitter already offered his apologies?


Of course not. He's just carried on like a juggernaut with his usual know-it-all but know nothing trolling. He even claimed to know EON policy about anniversary releases and when Simon pulled him up on it he quoted some LLL words that were utterly irrelevant to "prove" his point.

Now watch him dementedly bump this thread every day for a year. frown

LLL will probably produce a special edition Bond release to commemorate the day he's banned from FSM. Lol.
.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

The standard soundtrack customer base–parsing every penny, pining for more–is not the same customer base as 007Store.com, hence the phased, bifurcated initial release.

 
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