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 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Does this ever happen to you?

I'm watching "Requiem for Methuselah," and of course the teaser ends with Flint saying "I have the power to force you to leave, or kill you where you stand."

And then there's a big, dramatic music sting before they segue into the main title.

And I couldn't find that danger cue! I'm rifling through the 2012 box and the 50th Anniversary set. I knew it had to be there (and surely in the new 1701 Collection), but I wasn't finding it.

I spent an evening on this. Stupid!

Spoiler shield, in case you want to test yourself: it turns out to be "Dressing Down" from "The Man Trap". Not the composer I was expecting, which detoured me considerably. But I found it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

A lot of the cues ended up being reused in various other episodes. Which was fairly normal. I remember even ST:TNG had on occasion reused Ron jones cues in other episodes.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

That's the ep with the faux Brahms piece. Tried to find out who composed it for years back in the day. Never got anything conclusive.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

That's the ep with the faux Brahms piece. Tried to find out who composed it for years back in the day. Never got anything conclusive.


You probably know by now, but it was Ivan Ditmars. I think he was a regionally famous organist who played for sports teams back then. And he did classic radio:
https://speakingofradio.com/interviews/ivan-ditmars/

Wilbur Hatch: "You've got to write a Brahms waltz, we need it next week!" smile

I don't think his Star Trek piece should have been called "Brahms Paraphrase" in the credits, because it is not a paraphrase, but an original waltz that Ditmars composed for the episode.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Actually, yours is the first I've heard after abandoning the search several decades ago. Thanks! It really is something the way I got into it as a teen. And now--through the miracle of...

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Does this ever happen to you?

I'm watching "Requiem for Methuselah," and of course the teaser ends with Flint saying "I have the power to force you to leave, or kill you where you stand."

And then there's a big, dramatic music sting before they segue into the main title.

And I couldn't find that danger cue! I'm rifling through the 2012 box and the 50th Anniversary set. I knew it had to be there (and surely in the new 1701 Collection), but I wasn't finding it.

I spent an evening on this. Stupid!

Spoiler shield, in case you want to test yourself: it turns out to be "Dressing Down" from "The Man Trap". Not the composer I was expecting, which detoured me considerably. But I found it.


What shocks me the most, Zap, is that you didn't email me. big grin

I woulda saved you a TON of evening.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

What shocks me the most, Zap, is that you didn't email me. big grin

I woulda saved you a TON of evening.



That's true. With the answer in hand, I realized you would know this one without looking, because you've always liked the score in question. And it's one I don't really play. But then you're probably fluent in every TOS score regardless. Maybe a little less so with "I, Mudd", which was never tracked much that I can recall.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Actually, yours is the first I've heard after abandoning the search several decades ago. Thanks! It really is something the way I got into it as a teen.


I was right there with you, Howard. The waltz, plus that Steiner-Duning medley of love themes, made "Requiem" first and foremost a musical episode for me in '70s syndication. Plus, the 33-inch Enterprise appearing in person— that hit me where I lived, as a model-building teenager. Add in Rayna looking so hot, and this episode was one of my favorites.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

What shocks me the most, Zap, is that you didn't email me. big grin

I woulda saved you a TON of evening.



That's true. With the answer in hand, I realized you would know this one without looking, because you've always liked the score in question. And it's one I don't really play. But then you're probably fluent in every TOS score regardless. Maybe a little less so with "I, Mudd", which was never tracked much that I can recall.


Yeahhhh I don't think "I, Mudd" was used all that much afterwards, if at all. It was a little too offbeat to fall into heavy rotation.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

The one I couldnt find, that Neil helped me find was the stinger used in Spocks Brain (Kara’s Kaper). Took me a while to realize that little stinger didnt show up until season 3

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The one I couldnt find, that Neil helped me find was the stinger used in Spocks Brain (Kara’s Kaper). Took me a while to realize that little stinger didnt show up until season 3


That's a good one!

Also from "Spock's Brain," one of my absolute favorite danger motifs is Kara Zaps Kirk (M36). It gives you an angry blast, waits a bit, and then comes back in for a second blast. That cue became indelible with me because, in the late '70s, our local station often ran a promo in which they showed the moment from "The Lights of Zetar" where Kirk's party is in the dark on Memory Alpha and they see the dead bodies. And there's the "Kara Zaps Kirk" danger cue, and the announcer says tune in for Star Trek, weeknights at 7. It was very effective.

This stuff is Steiner gold. It took me so long to find the "Requiem for Methuselah" teaser cue because I thought it had to be Fred Steiner, and it wasn't.

 
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