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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: 36 Hours
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 3:05 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

22 years later and here's the first comment. "This is great."

I took a chance on this possibly old-hat score. I say a "chance", a gamble, because on my terribly limited exposure to old Dimi, I often felt that he was too "in yer face". But this title promised, being from a decade I generally like and having a subject matter which would suggest sobriety.

I'm so glad I crumbled and went for this, 22 years down the line. It's my first Tiomkin. Love the piano throughout and the way it rumbles and darts in peaks and troughs. I was worried that the song, in its instrumental variations as underscore, would be too schmalzy for me, but I like it. It's got a touch of Les Baxter exotica in the way it modulates. One of the bonus tracks - the jazz trio version of the main theme - is exceptional, and almost "worth the price of admission alone", as the kids didn't use to say.

36 HOURS. I love it. And I'm looking forward to spending the rest of my life picking up soundtracks from the time before most of us were born.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

It is a fine score. The Main Title is wonderful, one of his best.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I prefer the 'shorter' James Horner score.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I was mesmerized by the Main Title and the film which I watched decades ago on TCM. So it was only a few months ago that I picked this off from SAE at their annual FSM sales.Ive yet to pry open the set but this thread is a good reminder.

I've heard very positive and exciting feedback from most folks and besides I'm really digging into Tiomkin's work these days. He is the new Golden Age idol for me now as well as Hugo Friedhofer. Herrmann, Rozsa and Korngold are all already done.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

My favourite cue is "Lisbon Cha-Cha", especially the way its bright mood evolves into something sinister. In a quite subtle way, too, for Dimitri.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   podres185   (Member)

My favourite cue is "Lisbon Cha-Cha", especially the way its bright mood evolves into something sinister. In a quite subtle way, too, for Dimitri.
I'm very much in agreement. While I love Tiomkin's over-the-top action cues, I also find his much more subtle -- what I'd almost call nuanced-mood cues -- to be supremely effective film scoring.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Graham, I'm with you in your previous feelings about Tiomkin, and in finding this score to be a pleasant exception which I enjoy quite a lot. Probably Top 3 Tiomkin for me, along with The Old Man and the Sea and The Alamo (the one over the top bombastic Tiomkin I really enjoy for whatever reason).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

22 years later and here's the first comment. "This is great."

I took a chance on this possibly old-hat score. I say a "chance", a gamble, because on my terribly limited exposure to old Dimi, I often felt that he was too "in yer face". But this title promised, being from a decade I generally like and having a subject matter which would suggest sobriety.

I'm so glad I crumbled and went for this, 22 years down the line. It's my first Tiomkin. Love the piano throughout and the way it rumbles and darts in peaks and troughs. I was worried that the song, in its instrumental variations as underscore, would be too schmalzy for me, but I like it. It's got a touch of Les Baxter exotica in the way it modulates. One of the bonus tracks - the jazz trio version of the main theme - is exceptional, and almost "worth the price of admission alone", as the kids didn't use to say.

36 HOURS. I love it. And I'm looking forward to spending the rest of my life picking up soundtracks from the time before most of us were born.


I wish we had scores like this today in particular scores that feature a piano. For a while many other film composers followed Tiomkin's lead even Goldsmith did in some cues in scores like The Sand Pebbles.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2024 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

This is a terrific score! I grabbed it in the "Buy 10, get a free, out-of-print Towering Inferno" deal FSM had, in which I grabbed a number of blind buys I to this day remain glad I did.

I rescore movies, especially silents, many of which I find are scored badly, in a way which turns a specific film into a generic Silent Film Experience, which, once you've had that, you don't need to do again. Fritz Lang's Woman In The Moon is Bollywoodlike in its length, and its being an all-genres sort of movie: science fiction, romance, spy thriller, adventure, and for the spy parts, 36 Hours proved to be perfect! Even though most of the scores I used were from much earlier, the instrumentation blending so well with the images made it fit spectacularly, and I find I often watch those scenes less as part of the film, and more as a sort of music video for the tracks.

Great music, this.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2024 - 2:33 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Great story, Lorien!

Interesting that Les highlights in his post "Lisbon Cha-Cha" - I listened to that carefully the other night and it's quite striking how, instead of merely overlaying the disquieting underscore onto the source cue, it seems to cleverly be in time with it, Tiomkin's unsettling rumblings and stabs punctuating the dance music with mathematical precision. The rest of the score is, as I mentioned before, great - I am so glad I can still be surprised by scores/soundtracks from 60 years ago and more, by composers I hadn't paid much attention to in the past.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2024 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

36 Hours is one of those FSM releases I used to "stalk"; I'd play the hell out of the samples, but I'd never bought it. The theme has that "sound" that I absolutely love about Tiomkin circa The Alamo, Guns of Navarone (I had the Navarone playset...still do, bastards), 55 Days at Peking...I seriously need to get this one, even if it's taken me all this time. I'd like to see the film so I can hear the score in its proper context.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2024 - 4:45 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

You don't have to see the film, Jim. Just make up your own, "better" images in your head. Much good music has been ruined for me by watching the film it was "supposed to fit". I think a lot of it was dialled out too.

Anyway, I'm with you. It only took me 22 years. I've been "toying" with the idea of picking up the NAVARONE, if I can find it. Speaking of "toying" - do you still "play" with that model?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2024 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This one slipped by me when I had my Tiomkin exploration recently. It was mentioned by a couple of people in the recommendation thread I did at the time, and I think I tried to find a way to sample it (i.e. the WHOLE THING) online, without success:

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=156413&forumID=1&archive=0

Thanks for the bump, will try again.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2024 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

You don't have to see the film, Jim. Just make up your own, "better" images in your head. Much good music has been ruined for me by watching the film it was "supposed to fit". I think a lot of it was dialled out too.

Good point about the state of Tiomkin's score as heard in the film. This begs the question: Why use Tiomkin, a composer known primarily for his large sound and bombast and then dial down the score?

Anyway, I'm with you. It only took me 22 years. I've been "toying" with the idea of picking up the NAVARONE, if I can find it. Speaking of "toying" - do you still "play" with that model?

I still have the Navarone and would never part with it. The playset hasn't been out of storage since the Carson Zooms, when I would dazzle everyone (except MusicMad, Les Jepson, and possibly myself).

 
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