Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I was perusing my Walton, earlier and wondered. My question is what cds are there available with the most music from said films. In particular those where dialogue is absent or doesn't bugger the music ( at least for me, before anyone says). I have one with Carl Davis but that's it. Thanks in advance.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

If you are looking for CDs, after you eliminate the dialogue-laden Chandos/Neville Marriner discs, your options are pretty limited.

If you aren't wedded to CDs, this all-music LP is a good choice:



A1 Prelude: 'Richard III'
A2 Hamlet And Ophelia - A Poem For Orchestra
A3 Funeral March From 'Hamlet'
Suite From Henry V
B1 Overture - The Globe Playhouse
B2 Passacaglia - The Death Of Falstaff
B3 Charge And Battle
B4 Touch Her Soft Lips, And Part
B5 Agincourt Song
A Shakespeare Suite: 'Richard III'
B6 Fanfare: Music Plays
B7 The Princes In The Tower
B8 With Drum And Colours
B9 I Would I Knew Thy Heart
B10 Trumpets Sound

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

As far as the Marriner CD of HAMLET/AS YOU LIKE IT goes, I wouldn't let the dialogue put me off. On the Chandos HAMLET recording, the Gielgud dialogue consists of two stand-alone tracks running 6 minutes. So that leaves 33 minutes (12 tracks) of pure music for HAMLET. In addition, the CD contains 5 tracks (12 minutes) of Walton's music for Olivier's AS YOU LIKE IT (1936). There is no dialogue for AS YOU LIKE IT, although one track includes a soprano voice singing the lyrics to a song.




The Naxos recording of the same pieces with Andrew Penny conducting seems to combine the Michael Sheen dialogue tracks with adjacent musical tracks, which makes it more difficult to exclude them without losing more of the music.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Thanks. The Chandos Hamlet/ Gielgud sounds like it's worth looking at.

Edit: just found one- £2.58

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

For the record, on the Marriner recording of HENRY V, every one of the 10 tracks contains some dialogue.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

For the record, on the Marriner recording of HENRY V, every one of the 10 tracks contains some dialogue.


I think I'll survive for #2.58 smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I have an EMI CD with the suites from Henry V and Richard III (nothing from Hamlet for some reason) conducted by the composer, with a radio-style condensation of the former with dialogue performed by Olivier and the Prelude and Fugue from Spitfire. I have to say, it’s surprising that there have never been complete recordings of these scores considering how significant they are.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

On the Marriner RICHARD III, of the 10 tracks (44 minutes), only one 4-minute track has dialogue (almost completely), leaving nearly 40 minutes of uninterrupted music. The CD also has a 6-minute "Fanfare and March" that Walton did for a stage production of "Macbeth."

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2025 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   mark.bagby.19   (Member)

I have an EMI CD with the suites from Henry V and Richard III (nothing from Hamlet for some reason) conducted by the composer, with a radio-style condensation of the former with dialogue performed by Olivier and the Prelude and Fugue from Spitfire. I have to say, it’s surprising that there have never been complete recordings of these scores considering how significant they are.

This is an excellent recording. Highly recommended.

Charles Gerhardt and the National Philharmonic also give a spirited rendition of the Henry V suite on the Varese Sarabande album VSD-5207.

Also, Andrew Litton and the Bournemouth Symphony play the suite on a London Records CD, with other Walton pieces. I think now it's only available in a 4-CD box.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

What about this one, chaps. It only credits Larry as speaker on three tracks

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

What about this one, chaps. It only credits Larry as speaker on three tracks


That is the album I was referring to a few posts up, which features a radio-style condensation of Henry V on tracks 15-28 along with the suites for that and Richard III. The only tracks in that section where Olivier is not featured are Globe Theatre tracks, the Battle music, and the Agincourt Song.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Ok. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I have all of these CDs, and the Seraphim LP of Walton conducting suites from three of the four films. Because of this thread, I'm going to dig them out and give them a spin. I always thought Henry V was one of the great scores.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

While your at it then- which have most music unhampered by dialogue.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I've been following this thread closely because I too have always longed for the music sans speech.

I mean if I want to hear the music with the words I'll just watch the dang movies, thank you very much. Though I must say that the versions with narrative I have heard, including the wonderful vintage recording with Olivier and Walton, are all splendid in their way.

I'm also glad of this thread because it just spurred me to recall that I bought the Varese Gerhardt "The Prince and the Pauper" years ago. But I'm not that sure I ever listened to the Henry V suite - remedying that right now.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I've been following this thread closely because I too have always longed for the music sans speech.

I mean if I want to hear the music with the words I'll just watch the dang movies, thank you very much. Though I must say that the versions with narrative I have heard, including the wonderful vintage recording with Olivier and Walton, are all splendid in their way.

I'm also glad of this thread because it just spurred me to recall that I bought the Varese Gerhardt "The Prince and the Pauper" years ago. But I'm not that sure I ever listened to the Henry V suite - remedying that right now.


The liners for the Gerhardt state that it is different from the concert suite, longer, and used Walton's orchestrations, so I'm looking forward to comparing it with the Walton-conducted suite.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2025 - 4:07 PM   
 By:   ibelin   (Member)

I don’t own any individual albums, but I do have EMI’s ‘Walton: The Collector’s Edition’, which contains a mixture of Carl Davis and Charles Groves. Interestingly, it also contains the Henry V suite conducted by William Walton himself (in addition to the one conducted by Carl Davis).

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2025 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved.
Website maintained and powered by Veraprise and Matrimont.