That's such a great cue! I was pretty bummed that it wasn't on the score album also
I had not thought of the SOUNDTRACK in years until the “Mission: Impossible” topic came up in this thread. I knew of the solitary score cue, but based on its title, I had assumed wrongly that it was an edit of ‘Nyah and Ethan’ from the Zimmer SCORE album.
“Batman Forever” SOUNDTRACK contains no score at all. The first release of any Goldenthal score was on the U2 “Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me” single. It was a B side themes suite that preceded the late arriving SCORE album by several months. And I see now La-La Land included that themes suite as a BONUS track on its EXPANDED album.
But as for “Batman & Robin,” the lone existing SOUNDTRACK has the single Goldenthal track, ‘A Batman Overture.’ Refresh my memory, as I seem to recall that was determined at the time to be drawn instead from “Batman Forever” recording sessions. Is that any different or unique content?
The original GODZILLA (1998) songtrack had two Arnold cues, "Looking for Clues" and "Opening Titles". "Opening Titles" was retained on both the aborted score album/promo and the expanded score release, but what about "Looking for Clues"? Was it renamed?
L.A. Confidential – Goldsmith's theme for the "Badge of Honor" TV show. Also not licensed for the recent expanded CD.
I did not know that about “L.A. Confidential.” That seems like a glaring omission on multiple levels.
It's odd though strangely fitting that this ended up on the "period piece" soundtrack. But yes, strange omission, and I don't know why the license here would be different from the rest of the score?
THE SPECIALIST and PLAYING BY HEART both had unique versions of each score's two major themes on the songs album.
It's odd though strangely fitting that this ended up on the "period piece" soundtrack. But yes, strange omission, and I don't know why the license here would be different from the rest of the score?
Is the “Badge of Honor” theme music considered diegetic — actually heard by the characters in the setting of the film? If so, maybe that affects the license.
Alternatively, the SOUNDTRACK was released on Restless Records, which was owned by New Regency, the large film production company at the time that made “L.A. Confidential.” It had more or less automatic rights to the music that it may never have relinquished. Or because New Regency swapped studio partners from Warner Bros. to Fox (Disney) right around the time that “L.A. Confidential” was distributed by Warner Bros., maybe the rights are caught up in licensing limbo/hell.
It's odd though strangely fitting that this ended up on the "period piece" soundtrack. But yes, strange omission, and I don't know why the license here would be different from the rest of the score?
Is the “Badge of Honor” theme music considered diegetic — actually heard by the characters in the setting of the film? If so, maybe that affects the license.
Yeah, maybe. BADGE OF HONOR is a TV show within the movie L.A. CONFIDENTIAL, so the theme for the series is diegetic, yes.
I am not sure a how a minor detail if something was dietic or not should have any impact on the licence. It is still a cue composed specifically for THAT movie by the film's actual composer. Just like Jerry's cue for Hellraiser in Basic Instinct or his commercials music for Total Recall.
I recall that the song album for the 1996 MISSION IMPOSSIBLE contains unique suite edits of several Elfman cues, which I'm actually bummed that I don't have anymore as these suites were not reproduced for the LLL edition.
I can confirm this, and I actually kept the (otherwise risible) album for those unique cues. I don't have it in front of me, but I recall that "Impossible Mission" was a suite including the opening cue and some other suspense music, while "Trouble" was the intense opening from "Zoom A" combined with the entirety of "Zoom B." "Claire" was, however, more or less exactly "Betrayal" from the OST.
Incidentally, the League of Their Own thread confirms that the two Zimmer score cues (a surprisingly beefy 15 minutes between them) on the original album are unique editorial creations, and they're not on the tardy score album.
The frequent beauty of digital is you can just buy the tracks you want. So for Armageddon and The Specialist, you can just buy the composer tracks on the music inspired by or song albums. I was lucky on Mission impossible because I liked the song album and bought it. I actually really liked the songs.
Very grateful for this thread, turns out - just because of the mention of The Specialist. Enjoying those soundtrack album pieces right now via Apple Music. Nothing revelatory, but some nice arrangement/piano improv there.
I will have to seek out Playing by Heart the song album.
Very grateful for this thread, turns out - just because of the mention of The Specialist. Enjoying those soundtrack album pieces right now via Apple Music. Nothing revelatory, but some nice arrangement/piano improv there.
I will have to seek out Playing by Heart the song album.
Got a copy from Amazon. I’m not sure if it’s the only copy they had but it was very reasonably priced and worth checking out. As far as I can tell the score album and the song album for playing my heart out a print. Amazon also has the score album.
I believe that Howard Shore's Twilight Saga Eclipse had 1 track on the song album 'Jacob's Theme' not on the score album.
Yeah, the “Twilight” series SOUNDTRACK albums seem ripe for examination in this context.
For the first film, both SOUNDTRACK and SCORE albums contain a Burwell cue ‘Bella’s Lullaby.’ I assume that they are one and the same.
But what of any Burwell, Desplat, and Shore tracks on the other SOUNDTRACK albums? Because as I recall, every film had dual SOUNDTRACK and SCORE albums.
Very grateful for this thread, turns out - just because of the mention of The Specialist. Enjoying those soundtrack album pieces right now via Apple Music. Nothing revelatory, but some nice arrangement/piano improv there.
I will have to seek out Playing by Heart the song album.
Got a copy from Amazon. I’m not sure if it’s the only copy they had but it was very reasonably priced and worth checking out. As far as I can tell the score album and the song album for playing my heart out a print. Amazon also has the score album.
Yep, I've had the score album for many years, it's such a great album and so cool that Barry got to do it his way. And I'm finding some reasonably priced song albums too, will be adding that one!
RAMBO III by Jerry Goldsmith had a unique album cut of Preparations on the original Scotti Bros label. 5:02 on the Scotti and 6:20 on the Intrada. I grew accustomed and even fond of the abbreviated Scotti version during the years it was the only version available. This is the music accompanying the Thai stick fighting opening. In the Scotti Bros version the layers of percussion build on the previous layer more quickly than the Intrada version. Both versions are great. But as Rex Harrison would say, "I've grown accustomed to her face." I recall Intrada did try to add it but it exceeded the CD length. It would have been nice to have it added to the recent FIRST BLOOD update.
Interesting largely because it was Varèse Sarabande that released both SOUNDTRACK and SCORE albums. A ‘Main Title’ cue is common to both albums, but ‘The Aquarium’ may be unique to the SOUNDTRACK.
