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About half a dozen "Today's F.B.I." episodes are up. Theme by Elmer, episodes scores (so far) by John Cacavas. Theme is re-vamped during the run of the show, presumably by Cacavas, so there are at least two versions.
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Leslie, Thanks for the info. The guy at The Elmer Bernstein Vault is certainly enlightened and dedicated.
I've had THE NAKED EYE on DVD for several years now, so I was familiar with it to a certain extent. The "Themes and Short Scores" was interesting, especially for the mysterious "Erven Jourdan" tracks.
I think that PUPPIES FOR SALE can still be seen on Youtube, and it's a lovely and moving little film. Odd, though, that the cues from the GUNSMOKE episode "Hostage!" had to be removed, as I think they can be heard elsewhere on Youtube(?)
Superfluous was the "Granada - Agua Sin Pausa", a mere re-use of one of The 10 C's dances.
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What is the website?
Starkstark, it's all on Youtube. If you type, say, Elmer Bernstein Battles of Chief Pontiac on the Youtube search engine, it should offer up the version included in The Elmer Bernstein Vault. Click on that to discover the complete content of the "Vault".
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Jun 9, 2025 - 11:30 AM
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leslie
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Leslie, Thanks for the info. The guy at The Elmer Bernstein Vault is certainly enlightened and dedicated.
I've had THE NAKED EYE on DVD for several years now, so I was familiar with it to a certain extent. The "Themes and Short Scores" was interesting, especially for the mysterious "Erven Jourdan" tracks.
I think that PUPPIES FOR SALE can still be seen on Youtube, and it's a lovely and moving little film. Odd, though, that the cues from the GUNSMOKE episode "Hostage!" had to be removed, as I think they can be heard elsewhere on Youtube(?)
Superfluous was the "Granada - Agua Sin Pausa", a mere re-use of one of The 10 C's dances.
Hi, James
It's always good to hear from you.
The 'Erven Jourdan' is certainly intriguing. It is a thoroughly charming score, reminiscent of Bernstein's scores for the Eames films, and, given that the Jourdan filmography is a very slight one, with nothing identified as early as 1954, and, given Jourdan's other life as a creative photographer, I wonder if the Bernstein score was intended for a short film depicting a collection of Jourdan's photographs. What we can say, in relation to the potential content of the film that it might have been written for, is that the music has a definite rural vibe and that, at one point, with the brief quote from Gaudeamus Igitur," the music makes a scholastic/collegiate reference.
I am personally pleased to have finally caught up with Bernstein's theme for the ITC series "The Beachcomber" I was beginning to think this was an erroneous credit listing, not unlike the ASCAP listing of " The Devil's Brigade", particularly since the series is not listed in the TV filmography on the Bernstein website or in Peter Bernstein's recenly published biography;in terms of inaccuracy, this is not totally surprising since both these sources infuriatingly include the United Artists vinyl album of " The Making of the President 1960" in their discographies, despite the fact that the 2-album set contains not one note of the Bernstein score.
One absolute joy is the Purex ( not Pyrex as I wrote in my original email) Products commercial with its delicious take on the composer's own "Magnificent Seven" theme
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Well, what happens even with a composer or the estate, they get copyright trips, too, and stuff removed. I tried and failed one time, to help a composer get some stuff up there for demonstration purposes. Certain studios have material from certain titles, locked up pretty well, and I can attest to "Gunsmoke" being one of them; you have to edit stuff all to hell before it avoids copyright trips.
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Leslie, Are you UK - based?
The album containing the Purex theme was "Music Minus Me", pretty obscure and I think it was the first item I ever purchased on eBay! Two Bernstein cues on the record and as I recall they were pretty similar.
And I did have "Today's FBI" on an open-reel tape, two versions. On the original you could hear the conductor (it didn't sound like Bernstein) counting down to the music starting. The second version was a "disco" rendition of the theme with 'wah-wah' guitar.
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Talking of obscure Bernstein credits, recently I purchased a 16mm film of a documentary called "This is Lumber" with music by Bernstein. I had it converted to DVDR. It is approx 18mins duration and must have been one of EB's earliest attempts at film scoring. The trouble is, I can't find an actual date of release for the thing. (Interestingly, the film editor on this docu was Irving Lerner who, like Elmer, would go on to bigger and better things.)
James.
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Jun 10, 2025 - 12:08 PM
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Leslie, Are you UK - based?
The album containing the Purex theme was "Music Minus Me", pretty obscure and I think it was the first item I ever purchased on eBay! Two Bernstein cues on the record and as I recall they were pretty similar.
And I did have "Today's FBI" on an open-reel tape, two versions. On the original you could hear the conductor (it didn't sound like Bernstein) counting down to the music starting. The second version was a "disco" rendition of the theme with 'wah-wah' guitar.
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Talking of obscure Bernstein credits, recently I purchased a 16mm film of a documentary called "This is Lumber" with music by Bernstein. I had it converted to DVDR. It is approx 18mins duration and must have been one of EB's earliest attempts at film scoring. The trouble is, I can't find an actual date of release for the thing. (Interestingly, the film editor on this docu was Irving Lerner who, like Elmer, would go on to bigger and better things.)
James.
Hi James
I am certainly bowled over. You must be the most avid and diligent collector on the planet of all things Bernstein.
Many years ago, my wife was in conversation with Bernstein and he said to her, "Your husband knows my own work better than I do" but I am certain he would be blown away to hear that you actually had a copy of "This is Lumber". I very much doubt if anyone from the Bernstein Estate knows of it. You deserve a tip of the peer group hat for unearthing something of great historical interest.
I am indeed based in the UK. For the last ten years, we have lived in Bridge of Allan near Stirling
Incidentally, have you ever seen a copy of the Leon Uris Edward G Robinson travelogue film "Israel", scored by Bernstein, very much now a rarity. I presume Bernstein arranged Israeli song themes in the score?
Best regards
Leslie
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Eric:
For voices (also catches select FX):
https://multimedia.easeus.com/vocal-remover/
NOTE: Best site for removing speech I have found thus far.
For sound effects:
https://mvsep.com
Options:
"MVSep Demucs4HT DNR (dialogue, sfx, music)"
"Bandit Plus (speech, music, effects)"
"DeNoise by aufr33"
NOTE: One file at a time, free use, doesn't seem to go beyond 2:07 length, so edit out parts you want to run threw it.
Results will vary by each one, some catching stuff others don't.
You must not be following my TV Series Scoring thread.
I've submitted an entry for the short film "This is Lumber" to IMDb. I was able to trace the film back as far as 1955, but I suspect it's 1953 or 1954. Varying sources online say color to black & white, to different running times.
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Jun 10, 2025 - 1:17 PM
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leslie
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Eric:
For voices (also catches select FX):
https://multimedia.easeus.com/vocal-remover/
NOTE: Best site for removing speech I have found thus far.
For sound effects:
https://mvsep.com
Options:
"MVSep Demucs4HT DNR (dialogue, sfx, music)"
"Bandit Plus (speech, music, effects)"
"DeNoise by aufr33"
NOTE: One file at a time, free use, doesn't seem to go beyond 2:07 length, so edit out parts you want to run threw it.
Results will vary by each one, some catching stuff others don't.
You must not be following my TV Series Scoring thread.
I've submitted an entry for the short film "This is Lumber" to IMDb. I was able to trace the film back as far as 1955, but I suspect it's 1953 or 1954. Varying sources online say color to black & white, to different running times.
Hi Justin
Sound piece of detective work in relation to " This is Lumcber" Many thanks- your effort, as always, is much appreciated.
Lesllie
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Incidentally, have you ever seen a copy of the Leon Uris Edward G Robinson travelogue film "Israel", scored by Bernstein, very much now a rarity. I presume Bernstein arranged Israeli song themes in the score?
Best regards
Leslie
Leslie, no I have never been able to catch that one. Thirty minutes duration, narrated by Edward G. Robinson, produced and released by Warner Bros. Would love to see it.
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Now the plot thickens : on viewing the credits of "This is Lumber" tonight, it turns out that the director of the film was none other than Erven Jourdan! He also shared the photography credit.
However, the themes for Erven Jourdan on the Youtube entry and the music heard in "This is Lumber" are not one and the same.
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IMDb submission taken and the page is up:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt37256645/reference
I've submitted the director (and his photography credit).
Well, Justin, if it will help you any more, here are the complete credits for "This is Lumber" -
Narrated by Bill Anders
Script Supervision Robert E. Mahaffay
Film Cutter Dee Futch
Film Processing Bob Ward
Production Ass't Tom Graeff
Photographed by Erven Jourdan and Edward Martin
Sound Universal Recorders
Original Music Elmer Bernstein
Film Editor Irving Lerner
Directed by Erven Jourdan
Produced by The West Coast Lumbermens Association.
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