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 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)



this is a video upload from 2014 - 1½ year before the actual release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysCNbUOXfbI


how does this happens - does some on in the re-issuing team - in this case Varese - just have the files and uploads it


i'm wondering

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 4:38 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

So just double back and nothing else.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Given that the artwork's not the same, and the tracks on that YT account differ in name and length from those on the VS Club, most likely they're from a non-official source, and maybe they took that track off a ZZ Top album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)

So just double back and nothing else.

Yes but 1½ year before and official release

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)

Given that the artwork's not the same, and the tracks on that YT account differ in name and length from those on the VS Club, most likely they're from a non-official source, and maybe they took that track off a ZZ Top album.


unlikely since the whole back to the future 3 score is uploaded there in 2014 - and the Doubleback track on the OST was a shortened edit


And since this was 1½ year before release whereelse would one get access to the music


may I remind you of all the albums that have been finished today and may first be released in 3 years time

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Timothy J. Phlaps   (Member)

does some on in the re-issuing team - in this case Varese - just have the files and uploads it

It might not be the label, but I'm guessing someone from somewhere in the process has access to the materials and dupes them. There was absolutely nothing available for thirty years, then the recording sessions for all three NINJA TURTLES scores leaked online a year or so before Waxwork started putting them out officially.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

how does this happens - does some on in the re-issuing team - in this case Varese - just have the files and uploads it

Unlikely to be somebody on this "team" for a couple of reasons. A) The "team" is very, very small. B) Their continued employment in this industry depends on their work selling, and leaking the music in advance would actively work against that.

There have historically been several places along the production pipeline that can be the origin of leaked scores. Music files are typically provided for editors cutting EPKs (electronic press kits), home video extras, trailers, and even (within studios) to editors and assistants in need of temp tracks for new projects. Sometimes, those files will remain on an editor's system for years for future use, allowing new colleagues to grab them for other projects. Some composers keep their scores available in the cloud and provide producers links to appropriate scores when they're putting themselves up for new gigs.

That's how it happens. How it happened in this case is anybody's guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)

how does this happens - does some on in the re-issuing team - in this case Varese - just have the files and uploads it

Unlikely to be somebody on this "team" for a couple of reasons. A) The "team" is very, very small. B) Their continued employment in this industry depends on their work selling, and leaking the music in advance would actively work against that.

There have historically been several places along the production pipeline that can be the origin of leaked scores. Music files are typically provided for editors cutting EPKs (electronic press kits), home video extras, trailers, and even (within studios) to editors and assistants in need of temp tracks for new projects. Sometimes, those files will remain on an editor's system for years for future use, allowing new colleagues to grab them for other projects. Some composers keep their scores available in the cloud and provide producers links to appropriate scores when they're putting themselves up for new gigs.

That's how it happens. How it happened in this case is anybody's guess.


but this is scores due for release in the same sound and not like those predator files that was from a copy

so this is something different - it can only be leaked from during the process of the re-issue

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Maybe they use the Signal app?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)

Maybe they use the Signal app?

AND THAT is ?

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

it can only be leaked from during the process of the re-issue

If you're absolutely convinced of this, then I'm not sure why you asked in the first place.

But I think you're completely wrong.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)

it can only be leaked from during the process of the re-issue

If you're absolutely convinced of this, then I'm not sure why you asked in the first place.

But I think you're completely wrong.



then let's take a look at the BTFF 3 and the turtles examble

where would they get access to it and why just before the expanded releases?

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

then let's take a look at the BTFF 3 and the turtles examble

where would they get access to it and why just before the expanded releases?


I already answered the "where" part.

"Just before" is a pattern you're seeing that's not necessarily there. Some scores leak years before an official release. (Which includes Back to the Future, Part III, though maybe not on YouTube.) You're just not including those in your data set.

I sell a lot of CDs I don't want anymore. On occasion, one of them sells a few months or even weeks before an expanded version of that score is announced. (Once, it was days!) And twice, I've heard from the buyers, who assumed I knew something that I did not. That's just going to happen when you sell a few dozen CDs every year. The same principle applies here.

 
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